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Response to beevul (Reply #73)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 08:41 AM

79. I'm in favor of objective standards.

For example, no links to right-wing sources like Glenn Beck or the Washington Times.

Try to understand that if the only people who agree with something are all from one side, that makes it "one-sided". The most objective measure we have of disruptive behavior is juries, and by that standard very few of Hoyt's posts were hidden. I agree it's not perfect, but it's a lot better than krispos banning people that pro-gunners don't like, without any kind of balance or process or fairness.

There was nothing objective about banning Hoyt. Of course you agree with banning him: you are a pro-gunner. The truth is that Hoyt was banned because he reminded the group that the gun culture is rife with racism, extremism, and bloodlust. Pro-gunners would like to ignore that fact, and find it offensive when anyone points it out. But this is not FR, this is DU, and pointing out the truth about the right-wing gun culture is not grounds for banning. That's why Hoyt had very few hidden posts, and was not banned by MIRT or by admins, only by krispos.

When I posted about Hoyt in Meta, there were a total of zero non-pro-gun DUers that supported the move. Many people, including many people that never post in the gungeon, and at least two DU2 admins, expressed dismay.

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