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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]apocalypsehow
(12,751 posts)123. That is actually a good observation and question - this popped up on a lot of other legal sites
dealing with this matter when I was researching it. Best I can figure, the laws overlap in some areas, but if you find something out about it that's more definitive I'd appreciate it if you'd post it here.
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Alcohol use is higher among college students than it is among people of the same age
pnwmom
Sep 2012
#97
Why do any non-traditional students need to carry guns on campus? The vast majority
pnwmom
Sep 2012
#124
I'm curious, was Wyoming restrictive on guns until recently? Or just on concealed carry? n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#132
That's not how it works, Moon. It is incumbent upon those who wish to change the established law
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#26
I wasn't the one with the "problem": CA law FORBIDS concealed carry on campus save in
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#64
That's how it works alrighty, in the real world. In pro-NRA land, I don't know or care how it "works
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#65
Restricting where firearms can be carried is hardly "destroying personal freedoms," but let's
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#127
Actually it doesn't work because it's legal, you're just subject to academic sanctions
rDigital
Sep 2012
#79
Actually it does work because carrying concealed weapons @ CA campuses is illegal. Educate yourself:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#128
That is bull shit. You can't take an incident or incidents and say that it proves anything.
upaloopa
Sep 2012
#126
Yep - but they think every time they throw up some huge block of statutory mumbo-jumbo
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#129
"Proven wrong"? Hardly: the poster in question has consitently REFUSED to provide substantiation of
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#24
No: wrong again. The "burden of proof" is on the one *making the claim*, NOT on the one who asks
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#28
"questioned it as a personal attack" - Good grief, but that's some funny stuff there.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#32
you were attacking him as a person by questioning something he said about himself
gejohnston
Sep 2012
#37
No, I was not. He claims to be a "professor" authorized to tote guns around campus, and he was asked
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#39
Exactly right: I doubt you could find a handful - IF THAT - of CA adminstrators willing to sign such
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#13
Yes, this was in reply to an attempt to pretend that it was a wide open gun-totin' fest on
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#10
The referenced exception doesn't apply to ordinary civilians with concealed carry licenses.
pnwmom
Sep 2012
#14
as far as I can tell it applies to private citizens (cops, other than military police) are civilians
gejohnston
Sep 2012
#17
The permission isn't required to be legal, just to avoid being fired/expelled.
rDigital
Sep 2012
#22
It's NOT "legal anyway": you need to read the OP before you post easily-disproved assertions
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#25
I'm right, as the OP shows, all that irrelevant jazz you posted below notwithstanding. Try reading
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#33
I knew all the "California lets you carry guns all you want!!!" on campus silliness wasn't really
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#9
Also, it's pretty rich running around DU accusing me of "stalking" then you post repeatedly in my OP
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#35
It's not legal to strut around a CA campus with a pistol perched in your pants:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#119
No, you are not "legal to carry" on campus, as the OP shows. Period. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#38
Some hack internet site for a law firm? They don't even provide answers, just assumptions because
rDigital
Sep 2012
#40
A respected law firm made up of former prosecutor's and police officers is hardly a "hack site," and
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#41
Prove that I'm wrong with the laws and codes, not assumptions. You can't do it, I've tried.
rDigital
Sep 2012
#43
Cool, not interested. I like making you lose public arguments. It's worth letting you stalk and
rDigital
Sep 2012
#44
So, you make the claim you are being "stalked" but then show up in MY OP posting to me.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#46
So, now that the claim of being "stalked" has been shown to be bogus, I expect to see no more
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#47
The OP of this post is based on an issue you got absolutely thrashed on last night
rDigital
Sep 2012
#51
All nonsense, but regardless: the next time you accuse me of stalking you, it's going to the Admins.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#52
Actual useful info, as opposed to stuff that will get you arrested if you try it on a CA campus:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#114
Another article showing the Concealed Carry on Campus is only banned by school rules, not laws.
rDigital
Sep 2012
#48
That is blatantly FALSE: it shows *no* *such* *thing*. It is an opinion piece, not a factual
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#50
No, it's not true: CA law prohibits concealed carry on campus, and this article does not address the
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#56
I know that you're upset that your bogus OP giving phony legal advice has now been PROVEN
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#57
Facts showing that if you go onto a CA campus with a gun and get caught, you'll be arrested:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#115
Constantly repeating yourself does not make you any more right or less wrong....
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#133
More bogus info, because if you carry a gun on a CA campus and get caught, you're getting arrested.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#60
What I "keep repeating" are FACTS you've been unable to refute. Funny stuff. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#63
Perhaps it's not sinking in. Let's try it again. I'll use your methods to help you.
rDigital
Sep 2012
#66
Asked & answered: the OP stands unrefuted, all the diversionary jazz and irrelevant nonsense to the
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#67
Using your same methods, I guess we have to try again. We can't give up too easy!
rDigital
Sep 2012
#68
Asked & answered: now you're just spamming. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#70
BTW, just in case somebody's confused by this diversion about "open carry": it's a bogus
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#69
Using your own methods. I promise that I won't give up on you sweetie. Now with added umph!!
rDigital
Sep 2012
#71
Asked & answered: now you're just spamming. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#72
I'm using your same tactics.... except I'm winning and RIGHT. OP HAS BEEN THRASHED!!
rDigital
Sep 2012
#73
The OP is spot-on: all of your spamming and diversionary nonsense notwithstanding. Cap-locks tell
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#74
No it's just more fun to use caps and your own tactics to prove a point. You're wrong and then some
rDigital
Sep 2012
#75
Nope: quite right, all your spamming notwithstanding. The reason your spamming is that the facts are
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#77
More good info showing that if you carry a gun on a CA campus, you'll be arrested:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#116
It already is "over": I've posted and quoted the LAW; all you've put up is an anonymous post
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#62
You have no understanding of the subject at hand. The law has to ban it. The law ALLOWs it.
rDigital
Sep 2012
#76
You're right: the law bans it. First thing you got right all night. Thanks for confirming the OP!
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#78
The OP is spot-on: sorry that it ruined your bogus post about CA campus concealed carry.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#82
That part that you are posting is the lawyer site. It does not exist in the law. You have not read
rDigital
Sep 2012
#91
I know for a fact that this is what is relevant to CA concealed carry on campus:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#102
Extrapolate that paragraph, because I have and it doesn't say what you think it does. Go look up
rDigital
Sep 2012
#106
And carrying a gun onto a CA campus will get you arrested, if you get caught:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#113
Posting "A = ~A" is not going to help your case any. Campus carry is legal in California with a CCW
rDigital
Sep 2012
#81
No, it is not, save in very limited circumstances. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#83
It's ok to be wrong. You are allowed to fall. That's when we pick ourselves back up.
rDigital
Sep 2012
#84
As you've demonstrated, as you have been proven wrong by this OP. Fun stuff. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#85
So, you concede that you are not actually factually correct, but rather just in this thread to stir
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#89
Asked & answered: it is not legal to carry a gun onto a CA campus save in very limited circumstances
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#90
No, "carry" is not legal, save in very limited circumstances. You are still peddling bad advice.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#88
All you need is a Cali CCW and prefeably a note from admins to keep you out of scholastic hot water
rDigital
Sep 2012
#94
See the relevant law - the REAL law, not some blog post on a RW site somewhere - here:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#92
You're shooting blanks over there. That's not in the law. That's a bunk interpretation. Not
rDigital
Sep 2012
#104
Yet *another* post not from a legal source, but from a Right-wing website. Niiiiiice....
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#107
Who knew? In California: You can carry a gun in College with a Concealed Carry License
rDigital
Sep 2012
#109
Posting facts is such fun! Here's some showing you'll be arrested if try to "CCW" on a CA campus:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#117
That is actually a good observation and question - this popped up on a lot of other legal sites
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#123
I'm self-deleting this for now because I will not be able to attend to the OP
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#135