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PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
38. Sigh.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:04 AM
Sep 2012

Firstly, it's not a "collapsing" stock, it's an adjustable stock. The most I've seen that you can shorten them is about 4 inches. This does not markedly make them more "concealable". Sawing an inch-and-a-half off a rifle barrel really isn't going to be much help either.

Secondly. A true folding stock will, yes, shorten a rifle by 10-14 inches or so. So what? This again makes them only marginally more "concealable". Most rifles so equipped can't actually be operated, or operated effectively, with the stock in the folded position. The folding-stock was intended to aid storage and portability in tight spaces (vehicle crew members) and overt portability (airborne troops). If this is a significant factor in crime, I'd like to see it in some government crime data. If you can show that it's been a factor in any significant number of crimes, then you have a talking point.

Otherwise, it's merely selling fear and hysteria. And that is against the purpose of this site.

Who needs Congress? Executive order and some good judges can do what's necessary. Loudly Sep 2012 #1
Consequences will be the same Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #2
so how would you vote? . . . who would you send your $$$ to? . . . who would you make calls for? DrDan Sep 2012 #3
how would you label Jerry Brown? gejohnston Sep 2012 #6
Well Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #7
Voters can't do shit about what judges want. ileus Sep 2012 #21
Sorry glacierbay Sep 2012 #4
Because some people are using high-capacity... Deep13 Sep 2012 #5
Ditto 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #8
Well Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #9
Always with the nasty tone 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #15
I am trying to understand but, I am sorry - I do not see the nasty tone in that post Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #17
Perhaps a more civil tone here... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #19
Thank you. That was very pretty. 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #20
You RegieRocker Sep 2012 #42
Yes, that's correct 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #43
And I am impressed. Don't let us put you off here in the gun forum, TPaine7 Sep 2012 #44
Is Reasonable Argument a member of the NRA? Marengo Sep 2012 #25
If by "nasty tone" you mean truth and uncomfortable facts, then yeah, maybe so. PavePusher Sep 2012 #28
assault rifles have been tightly regulated and registered since the 1930s gejohnston Sep 2012 #12
You mean rifles like this one? oneshooter Sep 2012 #22
I'm thinking of the 34-rd. Glock magazines... Deep13 Sep 2012 #23
What is the difference between those and the one shown? oneshooter Sep 2012 #24
I'm guessing 10-20 rounds. nt Deep13 Sep 2012 #35
So it is ONLY the ammunition capacity that you care about? oneshooter Sep 2012 #48
Mostly, and concealability. Deep13 Sep 2012 #50
The "regulation" you refer to is related to the militia, not the people when outside the militia. PavePusher Sep 2012 #52
The "people's right" is the right to insure regulated, state security. Deep13 Sep 2012 #55
Take a look at what actually happened in real life. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #53
Why Glock? gejohnston Sep 2012 #26
You mean the Five-Seven? Deep13 Sep 2012 #34
You can get 30 round mags for the five seven gejohnston Sep 2012 #36
I've got 20-rounders for my Beretta carbine. Deep13 Sep 2012 #40
I believe the long magazines were built for the full-auto Glock 18 krispos42 Sep 2012 #45
They're great in the G19 at the range. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #57
Collapsible stocks? They only shorten the weapon by 4.72 inches on an M4 type rifle. That's not rDigital Sep 2012 #27
I know it's not the manufacturer's purpose. Deep13 Sep 2012 #30
he didn't use an AK gejohnston Sep 2012 #32
I see. Deep13 Sep 2012 #41
The Batman shooter used an M&P-15 (AR-15), a Remington 870 shotgun and a Glock 22. No AK in sight. rDigital Sep 2012 #37
"collapsible, concealable stocks" PavePusher Sep 2012 #29
I realize the buffer tube limits the collapsability Deep13 Sep 2012 #31
with a 14 inch barrel, gejohnston Sep 2012 #33
A fixed flash-suppresor counts as part of the barrel length. (welded or pinned) PavePusher Sep 2012 #39
Sigh. PavePusher Sep 2012 #38
Some people are also using fertilizer and fuel oil to commit mass murder. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #58
John Kasich proved you wrong. safeinOhio Sep 2012 #10
This was discussed in another post Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #11
All the excuses in the world do not safeinOhio Sep 2012 #14
McCain was never all that popular with gun owners. ... spin Sep 2012 #54
How much was due to high tech ballot stuffing? gejohnston Sep 2012 #13
Clinton's anti-gun stance was enough for me to not vote for him! Yavapai Sep 2012 #16
it is the Democratic Party, has been since Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans gejohnston Sep 2012 #18
The Deadly Myth of Gun Control in Electoral Politics SecularMotion Sep 2012 #46
I agree with that analysis Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #47
So why, exactly, are you crusading for a revival of the 1993 issue? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #49
Yeah, let's just the NRA run the entire show. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #51
Why do you equate private gun ownership with the NRA? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #56
You make a damn good point. ... spin Sep 2012 #59
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