Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Euromutt

(6,506 posts)
10. A law is only as effective as its enforcement
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jan 2012

Grahame Morris, MP, can call "for a review of the gun licensing laws in the aftermath of the shootings" all he wants, but the problem here is not that the law was too lax; the police could have pulled the guy's firearm licenses but didn't.

When in doubt, pile on ever more restrictions... SteveW Jan 2012 #1
Ah the gun laws in the western civilized nations rl6214 Jan 2012 #2
As for Benjamin Barnes, so for Michael Atherton. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #3
well, I'll say exactly what I said in the thread iverglas Jan 2012 #4
But let's be accurate. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #6
perhaps you would ask iverglas Jan 2012 #8
I will... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #11
I dunno iverglas Jan 2012 #12
As I expected... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #13
but not actually iverglas Jan 2012 #15
This is where any new work needs to start. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #27
And that "careful screening" will not occur, as firearms possession has now gotten... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #7
what is the basis for this repeated assertion? iverglas Jan 2012 #9
And efficacy can only be determined in retrospect, and reasonableness is subjective. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #30
round and round and round iverglas Jan 2012 #31
love your citation iverglas Jan 2012 #5
A law is only as effective as its enforcement Euromutt Jan 2012 #10
The police then need more oversight/and or funding. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #16
The police need more oversight, lest... lest what? Euromutt Jan 2012 #19
Lest they ineffectively enforce the firearms permitting laws. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #24
What's noteworthy about this story is that in England, this is actually a noteworthy story. DanTex Jan 2012 #14
+1000 ellisonz Jan 2012 #17
Can we say "post hoc ergo propter hoc"? Euromutt Jan 2012 #20
The "usual objections"... DanTex Jan 2012 #21
Simply put Dan.... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #22
Yes, facts are facts. DanTex Jan 2012 #23
I can make the distinction quite easily We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #25
How much of our murder rate is skewed by drug violence? hack89 Jan 2012 #26
why do you imply this is not true of other comparable countries? iverglas Jan 2012 #33
So lets fix that problem first - more bang for the buck hack89 Jan 2012 #34
a site that may be of interest iverglas Jan 2012 #29
more likely gejohnston Jan 2012 #18
I meant to say that iverglas Jan 2012 #28
There are options... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #32
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»(UK) Horden shootings: ki...»Reply #10