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Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:58 PM

rDigital (2,239 posts)

22. Are all gun owners guilty (????)until proven innocent? nt

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121 replies	Author	Time	Post
Gun ownership up, crime down [View all]	rDigital	Aug 2012	OP
Well, if it isn't right-wing propaganda from the good old Washington Times!	DanTex	Aug 2012	#1
Nice dodge	rDigital	Aug 2012	#2
LOL. The issue is that you are posting right-wing propaganda!	DanTex	Aug 2012	#3
Umm	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2012	#5
Thread disruption? The OP is an article from the Washington Times!	DanTex	Aug 2012	#6
While some may...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2012	#9
Ever watch C SPAN Washington Journal?	gejohnston	Aug 2012	#15
Instead of bashing the source	Missycim	Aug 2012	#66
can you dispute the FBI statistic?	gejohnston	Aug 2012	#8
Come on, you know the FBI is funded by the NRA! nt	Remmah2	Aug 2012	#96
What about the CDC and the BATFE? nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#121
The FBI's UCR is RW propoganda?	Equate	Aug 2012	#20
FBI spelled backwards is NRA. nt	Remmah2	Aug 2012	#84
So that's it.	Equate	Aug 2012	#85
I've never known numbers to carry a political bias	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#26
Really, I've known many that did.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#56
No you haven't	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#93
Numbers are synthesized, hence they can be political.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#98
Could you tell me the political slant of 4?	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#99
Well, 6 is afraid of 7....	Pholus	Aug 2012	#102
No, my dear Pholus	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#105
An understanding of real data is NEVER embarassing, thanks.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#109
Hmmmmm...	TPaine7	Aug 2012	#30
I think I agree with Tex	rock	Aug 2012	#87
Washington Times spelled backwards is FOX? nt	Remmah2	Aug 2012	#95
Looks like better law enforcement, surveillance, aging population, etc., is working.	Hoyt	Aug 2012	#4
Awesome	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#27
Ask families of victims of Zim, Stawicki, Loughner, Holmes and unreported intimidation by	Hoyt	Aug 2012	#38
Appeal to emotion	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#41
Every ad that helped sell you a gun, appealed to your emotions.	Hoyt	Aug 2012	#42
Not really.	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#43
A perfect application of your definition:	Pholus	Aug 2012	#67
However if skyrocketing gun ownership and concealed carry were large factors in the equation ...	spin	Aug 2012	#89
Cut and pasted NRA Talking points? Easily refuted....	Pholus	Aug 2012	#7
But we can say that more guns did not lead to more violence, correct?	hack89	Aug 2012	#10
Way to divert, but sorry that isn't the point of the OP.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#14
The problem everyone who legally buys a gun is a responsible gun-owner	Homer12	Aug 2012	#16
And everyone who buys a car	Equate	Aug 2012	#21
At least the car driver had training.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#51
Which has nothing to do with my comment.	Equate	Aug 2012	#74
Perhaps the poorly written OP should have considered that instead.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#75
Ok, I'll concede that	Equate	Aug 2012	#76
You've stated a reasonable hypothesis.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#78
Very good post	Equate	Aug 2012	#81
So the problem is complicated, to say the least.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#97
I like your sentence 3	Equate	Aug 2012	#107
As do I!	Pholus	Aug 2012	#111
Then why so many teenage driving related deaths?	Remmah2	Aug 2012	#86
Who says the car driver "actually took a competency test first that had consequences for failure"?	Jenoch	Aug 2012	#103
Yes and the penalties are probably way too light.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#104
How about letting non violent drug offenders out on probation	Equate	Aug 2012	#108
As could I... nt	Pholus	Aug 2012	#112
Recently, Zimmy, Stawicki, Loughner, not sure about Holmes, good examples.	Hoyt	Aug 2012	#44
Eastwood and Bronson come to mind...	Pholus	Aug 2012	#52
That's not true.	Jenoch	Aug 2012	#106
Clearly the reasons for historically low levels of gun violence are many	hack89	Aug 2012	#18
Actually, my magic rock is what protected us.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#47
So you have one of those too? Mine is grey with red specks. nt	hack89	Aug 2012	#61
Yours sounds awesome! Nope mine is deep red with embedded quartz...	Pholus	Aug 2012	#64
and tigers. As well as dinosaurs.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#65
Damn	Equate	Aug 2012	#110
Where is this only coming from?	TPaine7	Aug 2012	#24
Oooooh, Mr. Lawyer! What a brilliant loophole you found!	Pholus	Aug 2012	#49
You emphasized the "only" concept.	TPaine7	Aug 2012	#113
Perhaps. You're weaving yourself quite nicely.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#114
You know what, I think you have a point.	TPaine7	Aug 2012	#115
And I am sorry...	Pholus	Aug 2012	#117
No problem. No problem whatsoever.	TPaine7	Aug 2012	#119
Every anecdote involving gun violence is proof that guns are the problems	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#28
Part of problem, and one big enough to need some change.	Hoyt	Aug 2012	#45
Wow, you get it!	Pholus	Aug 2012	#50
Not at all necessary ...	spin	Aug 2012	#91
I'll get right on that...	Pholus	Aug 2012	#101
No problem. (n/t)	spin	Aug 2012	#116
It forgot to mention that Mass Murder is up	Homer12	Aug 2012	#11
rare events are anecdotes	gejohnston	Aug 2012	#17
Tell that to CERN...	Pholus	Aug 2012	#62
Do you remember a few years back when we had an epidemic of pretty white girls being kidnapped?	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#29
And home invasions are down thanks to semi-autos capable of repelling multiple assailants.	Remmah2	Aug 2012	#83
Will Rdigital champion the 2nd Adm rights of Mass Murderers?	Homer12	Aug 2012	#12
waiting....	Homer12	Aug 2012	#13
Will Homer12 treat every American as a potential Mass Murderer?	hack89	Aug 2012	#19
Are all gun owners guilty (????)until proven innocent? nt	rDigital	Aug 2012	#22
When they occupy the same room as me, yes.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#53
Must be nice	Missycim	Aug 2012	#69
I'm describing risk mitigation. Sorry you take it personally.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#70
Dont flatter yourself	Missycim	Aug 2012	#71
That's why we wouldn't meet in real life. I have standards.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#72
I dont seek	Missycim	Aug 2012	#73
If you were in the same room as me,	Equate	Aug 2012	#79
Ahh, but that merely marks you as more sane.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#80
And I have nothing but contempt for people like that	Equate	Aug 2012	#82
And based on that statement...	Pholus	Aug 2012	#100
Gun rights are not a partisan issue	rDigital	Aug 2012	#23
we are also getting more obese . . . I think that leads to less crime	DrDan	Aug 2012	#36
Interesting. I'd never thought of that, but it's probably a factor. Thanks! n/t	TPaine7	Aug 2012	#37
Good point.	Equate	Aug 2012	#39
Crime down, gun ownership up.	Bonhomme Richard	Aug 2012	#25
so . . . do you think that the reason for this decrease is because of the increase in guns?	DrDan	Aug 2012	#31
Are the two statistics connected?	JohnnyRingo	Aug 2012	#32
The only thing that is clear is that more guns do not equal more violence	hack89	Aug 2012	#40
I recall the argument in 2004	JohnnyRingo	Aug 2012	#48
Thank you for writing that!	Pholus	Aug 2012	#55
I don't believe that more guns led to less gun violence	hack89	Aug 2012	#68
that logic is SIMPLY BOGUS	DrDan	Aug 2012	#58
But we live in a less violent society by every measure	hack89	Aug 2012	#63
Just don't go to the movies.	liberal N proud	Aug 2012	#33
College enrollment up, crime rates down.	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#34
I personally think more guns lead to obesity	DrDan	Aug 2012	#35
If someone were to make the argument that more ice cream necessarily means more crime	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#46
Only if you have a single independent variable.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#54
In this scenaro they have claimed it is only about the ice-cream	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#92
Hmm	loansstore	Aug 2012	#57
During this same time frame, 25 years. the eradication of Lead in the environment	WCGreen	Aug 2012	#59
Thank you! That is now number 8 on my list!	Pholus	Aug 2012	#60
Older Housing/Older Neighborhoods; Poverty Sucks	Remmah2	Aug 2012	#88
with just a small chunk of that $800+	gejohnston	Aug 2012	#90
I'd like to see the old neighborhoods torn down.	Remmah2	Aug 2012	#94
The sun is up and the cock roaches scurry.	Lint Head	Aug 2012	#77
Wow	bongbong	Aug 2012	#118
The main premise	rDigital	Aug 2012	#120

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