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Response to Bonhomme Richard (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:35 PM

47. That's because what you are asking for is impossible.

 

If we can send a craft to Mars we can certainly come up with some solution to weapons falling into the hands of those that shouldn't have access to them.

If you accept that the primary purpose of the second amendment is to have an armed citizenry being sufficiently armed so as to perform military service against enemies both foreign and domestic, then you have to face the reality that you cannot propose restrictions that negate that fundamental capability.

Any gun control proposal that gives the government a list of firearm owners seriously undermines the intent of the second amendment.

The only way you can even have a chance at stopping shootings like the two recent events is by having a mandatory psychological examination for everyone who wants to own firearms. This obviously creates a registry of firearm owners, and as such is a non-starter.

My problem with the state of things is that the NRA will not even allow the issue to be discussed. Period. In any context.

This is not true. The NRA completely supports laws that prohibit convicted criminals and adjudicated mentally incompetent people from possessing firearms. And they support strong punishments for people who commit crimes with firearms.

What they will not support are laws which presuppose that everyone is a criminal or crazy person who just hasn't been found out yet. They won't support laws which put expensive hurdles in front of firearm ownership. And they won't support laws which create registries of firearms or firearm owners.

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