Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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24. not strawmen nor red herrings when your side rants about accidents but

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:15 PM

Aug 2012

but complaining about target shooters and hunters are red herrings when talking about gang violence in urban areas like Chicago and DC.

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NRA represents gun manufacturers — period [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2012 OP

That's obvious to anyone who has ever flipped through a copy of American Rifleman or American Hunter slackmaster Aug 2012 #1

Typical Fudd. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #2

Remember, *his* deadly weapons are somehow 'nicer' than "*those* peoples" deadly weapons... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #10

Problem is -- we do understand why you want access to "other firearms. " That's main reason for Hoyt Aug 2012 #63

Yes, and why you and people like you are failing at the legislative process. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #75

The 4.3 million member are fairly happy with the NRA's representation of them. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #3

Does anyone admit to belonging to the NRA? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #6

Several, including myself, have posted that we are members. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #8

+1 OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #17

+2 nt virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #21

So you support an organization intent on defeating Obama and advancing right wing causes not even Hoyt Aug 2012 #30

You still haven't been able to prove this statement. rl6214 Aug 2012 #37

Exercise you mind by looking at NRA leadership, then look up money they give to buy support. Hoyt Aug 2012 #38

You are the one making the statement and, by your own words should be the one providing proof rl6214 Aug 2012 #46

The NRA takes no stance on those other issues. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #39

+3 rDigital Aug 2012 #35

more admit to being NRA members than gejohnston Aug 2012 #9

Are you an NRA member? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #13

No, but I'm not a member of AAA either. gejohnston Aug 2012 #14

AAA? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #18

not much of a joiner gejohnston Aug 2012 #20

Yeah, cars, and bathub falls and pool drownings.............. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #22

not strawmen nor red herrings when your side rants about accidents but gejohnston Aug 2012 #24

Right. it's not. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #25

Yes I am. Certified Rifle instructor,Certified pistol instructor, Range officer, oneshooter Aug 2012 #43

Um, TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #47

I am addressing you. Hoyt just likes to butt in. oneshooter Aug 2012 #84

Butt in? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #86

Oneshooter, fact folks who view guns like you are instructing is another reason to oppose toting. Hoyt Aug 2012 #66

You are being disingenuous Jenoch Aug 2012 #69

He's also on record as being all for shooting teenagers in the back while they're running Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #81

You talking about ARMED sammy weaver, who his dad hid behind while evading federal marshals? Hoyt Aug 2012 #88

none of that is relevant gejohnston Aug 2012 #89

Once again you have failed to answer a question posed to you. oneshooter Aug 2012 #87

I've belonged to the NRA for probably 40 years. ... spin Aug 2012 #28

Raises Hand Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #32

Lifetime member Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #42

I am a Member of the NRA holdencaufield Aug 2012 #64

how big of a hassle is it to have a gejohnston Aug 2012 #65

Paperwork takes almost a year holdencaufield Aug 2012 #67

We should aspire to Australia's laws - of course, many gun cultists couldn't handle it. Hoyt Aug 2012 #71

Who should lead the fight Jenoch Aug 2012 #74

What it doesn't realize is... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #72

Other than you and a few others, sounds like vast majority of citizens are satisfied with laws. Hoyt Aug 2012 #80

How do you draw THAT conclusion? NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #82

It sees what it wants to see. NT holdencaufield Aug 2012 #85

The retailers like Walmart as well cadmium Aug 2012 #4

Why do Jenoch Aug 2012 #5

While i don't Oneka Aug 2012 #7

Why do gun grabbers Missycim Aug 2012 #11

Congrescritters sre pretty cheap. rrneck Aug 2012 #12

A year or so ago there was a chart roaming around with pipoman Aug 2012 #73

Ever notice how gun sales and the NRA's popularity all go up whenever some politician even hints 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #15

It's funny, and sad, how some hunters think they are somehow a majority of gun owners benEzra Aug 2012 #16

Oh, well, if Michael F. McNulty said it then it MUST be fact!!!! HALO141 Aug 2012 #19

Nope, your simply wrong...again... virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #23

Most states that allow semiautomatic rifles to be used for hunting game such a deer ... spin Aug 2012 #26

Quite obvious, but expect its wind-up doll defenders on this site to claim otherwise... villager Aug 2012 #27

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. ... spin Aug 2012 #31

Except, repeating this mantra is part of that "wind-up doll" rhetoric I was talking about villager Aug 2012 #48

Here's what many NRA members feel ... spin Aug 2012 #49

It's like being a "sensible" Republican. The "party apparatus" you're in will never allow policies villager Aug 2012 #53

I support many of the training programs that the NRA offers ... spin Aug 2012 #54

So the NRA blocking funding of studies on gun violence wasn't enough? villager Aug 2012 #55

actually they don't gejohnston Aug 2012 #56

The CDC studies have been strongly biased against guns. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #57

Yes, only the NRA -- not the CDC! -- can be trusted to talk "honestly" about guns! villager Aug 2012 #58

false choice gejohnston Aug 2012 #59

false post villager Aug 2012 #60

op eds don't count gejohnston Aug 2012 #61

Indeed. Neither does "to the best of your knowledge" villager Aug 2012 #70

there are no automatic apologies gejohnston Aug 2012 #76

And of course, to the NRA, all research contradicting their world views is "advocacy" villager Aug 2012 #77

research or results? gejohnston Aug 2012 #78

So you agree then the NRA should quit trying to block other studies and let the results villager Aug 2012 #79

not what the law says gejohnston Aug 2012 #83

What is false about his post? GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #68

We love our vehicles and speed but we live with roads with speed limits. Thinkingabout Aug 2012 #29

these irresponsible owners are mostly gangsters gejohnston Aug 2012 #33

Speed kills a lot of people in this country Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #41

I own two modified cars, a 85.5 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, and a 01 Mustang GT virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #45

It's no different than ALEC. When it began it was geared toward gun safety. Now it's just Lint Head Aug 2012 #34

I disagree with your opinion of this article rl6214 Aug 2012 #36

"rifleman" I doubt he was ever a Marine. oneshooter Aug 2012 #44

This is false, and I can prove it. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #40

Does the NRA speak for you when they call for the defeat of President Obama? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #50

Nope. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #52

Isn't that what ALL Lobbyists do? period. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #51

With "friends" like that, who needs enemies? Dr_Scholl Aug 2012 #62