Gun Control & RKBA

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11. "If every Jewish and anti-Nazi family in Germany

Reply to Atypical Liberal (Original post)

Sat Aug 4, 2012, 10:26 PM

Aug 2012

had owned a Mauser rifle, twenty rounds of ammunition, and the will to use it, Adolf Hitler would be a little-known footnote to the history of the Weimar Republic."
--- Aaron Zelman ---

History has taught us the critical importance of armed defense of ourselves and those in our charge. Thankfully, some have taken that lesson seriously.

Semper Fi,

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How Israel avoids school shootings [View all] Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 OP

That's just wrong TPaine7 Aug 2012 #1

I agree that's just wrong Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #37

Do you have any idea how fast you can put a magazine in a weapon and a round ... spin Aug 2012 #107

Assuming you carry a semiautomatic pistol, do you carry the magazine separate ? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #109

I carry a revolver for self defense. ... spin Aug 2012 #113

your Smith isn't old fashioned, gejohnston Aug 2012 #115

In all seriousness I was being a smart ass on the first post but also in all seriousness Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #116

You do make a valid point ... spin Aug 2012 #123

A girl I know was shot 3 times with an AK-47 while waiting for a bus in Israel Cary Aug 2012 #104

The Palestinian shooting an innocent person? Not at all. How does that relate TPaine7 Aug 2012 #106

You claim that Israel is uncivilized. Cary Aug 2012 #108

I also supported honoring and protecting our mass shooters. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #110

I see I misread your post. Cary Aug 2012 #111

Israel's situation is a bit different from ours. Besides, you guys would freak if we had same laws. Hoyt Aug 2012 #2

And your source is? n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #4

If you care to dispute what I said, please do. Those are example of restrictions in Israel. Hoyt Aug 2012 #5

If I wanted to dispute what you said, I would have. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #7

I read several sources from first 10 Google search. Let's hear your version. Hoyt Aug 2012 #10

I have no "version" of your source; it's YOUR source, remember? n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #13

Hope you have all your guns locked up if you are around people. Hoyt Aug 2012 #16

That explains a lot TPaine7 Aug 2012 #24

It was researched, and is a fact. You can verify. Hoyt Aug 2012 #26

good lord. Hoyt. Post a link to the quote that you supposedly cited. how hard is that? -- Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #59

Good lord, Tuesday, post a link to a source that refutes what I said about Israel's gun laws. Hoyt Aug 2012 #60

Ehem... rl6214 Aug 2012 #101

I always try to link to any research I find, you NEVER do. ... spin Aug 2012 #63

Fine, set me straight by showing where I am wrong. I'll wait. Hoyt Aug 2012 #64

what I find interesting is gejohnston Aug 2012 #67

It is interesting. As is fact you are only one who has looked at this rather than trying to Hoyt Aug 2012 #69

I didn't look gejohnston Aug 2012 #70

Ahem: "When you quote something like that, it is customary to give a link to the source." friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #74

Another gun culture stalker. Israeli law is there for the looking. That is a citation to anyone Hoyt Aug 2012 #77

Why should I bother? ... spin Aug 2012 #71

As long as Wikipedia is considered a credible source: Common Sense Party Aug 2012 #84

I find several things interesting about Israeli firearm law ... spin Aug 2012 #90

Prove you're right, we're ALL waiting rl6214 Aug 2012 #97

Ehem... rl6214 Aug 2012 #102

Ehem... rl6214 Aug 2012 #100

Ehem... rl6214 Aug 2012 #99

That's interesting 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #66

Such is the way of the anti-gun people. With the exception of one (That I can think of) shadowrider Aug 2012 #72

Ehem... rl6214 Aug 2012 #98

LOL, where else would you shoot them? Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #45

Yep, at a range. Have em at home, go to jail. Hoyt Aug 2012 #50

That doesn't make sense. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #119

We are talking Israel here. Having been to Alabama a bunch, it is very different from Israel. Hoyt Aug 2012 #122

I don't care where you are talking about. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #124

There would be plenty of ammo stands if you had to buy ammo at range. Hoyt Aug 2012 #125

Good luck with that. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #126

Ah, more evidence you guys aren't as law-abiding as you like us to believe. Hoyt Aug 2012 #127

There are laws that I would not obey. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #130

Whew. Hoyt Aug 2012 #131

So you would obey *any* law? TPaine7 Aug 2012 #132

No, I would not obey just any law unless it is best for society. And I wouldn't pop off sounding Hoyt Aug 2012 #134

"No, I would not obey just any law..." Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #136

would you obey an immoral law? gejohnston Aug 2012 #133

GE, we are talking about guns and society, not Anne Frank. Why do you guys have to sound so dang Hoyt Aug 2012 #135

No, what we are talking about is limiting ammo purchases to shooting ranges. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #137

we are not talking about Randy Weaver either gejohnston Aug 2012 #138

You are sounding like him. Hoyt Aug 2012 #139

for example? gejohnston Aug 2012 #140

You emboldened it. You link it. It is on you to prove it. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #62

He expects others to provide links- yet *he* won't: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #75

excuse me - but, I think you just Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #78

That'd sell well here in the US. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #3

Wouldn't it be easier not to commit atrocities? EOM physioex Aug 2012 #6

And that would be enough if people of goodwill comprised the entire population. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #8

Hate to say it cause I love you guys w/o your guns, but there are plenty of toters with dubious good Hoyt Aug 2012 #12

Agreed. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #18

I think there are a lot like Zimmerman. Hoyt Aug 2012 #19

The data does not support your "thinking". Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #46

I think the data does. Hoyt Aug 2012 #47

The Texas data supports legal concealed carry. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #53

Once again, you need to compare permit holders to those who qualify for a permit but know guns Hoyt Aug 2012 #61

You entirely missed the point of the post. CCWer save innocent lives. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #80

You are wrong. People can - and do everyday - defend themselves without a gun. Hoyt Aug 2012 #85

Sorry staves and cans of beans Missycim Aug 2012 #89

Something like that has always worked for me and millions more. Try it. Hoyt Aug 2012 #91

lol Missycim Aug 2012 #92

Same here. Irrational fear, while sad, can be quite humorous. Hoyt Aug 2012 #93

Provide a link and prove it. Oh, wait, it's Hoyt, nevermind n/t shadowrider Aug 2012 #65

"When you quote something like that, it is customary to give a link to the source." friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #76

I think you are wrong. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #121

That all you can ever do is make accusations rl6214 Aug 2012 #103

yes but unfortunately, gejohnston Aug 2012 #9

So you would have no objection.... physioex Aug 2012 #38

not at all but gejohnston Aug 2012 #41

Cool.... physioex Aug 2012 #42

her carbine has no magazine and I'm guessing gejohnston Aug 2012 #43

"If every Jewish and anti-Nazi family in Germany DWC Aug 2012 #11

Yeah, that is likely to happen here. Keep a couple at home if you just can't overcome that fear. Hoyt Aug 2012 #14

"Better to remain silent DWC Aug 2012 #21

Shoot, I hoped you'd put it in your own words. Hoyt Aug 2012 #27

OK, In my own words DWC Aug 2012 #79

I don't share your opinion about that or guns. Hoyt Aug 2012 #86

I do rl6214 Aug 2012 #105

I'll have to agree with that. nt CokeMachine Aug 2012 #129

So Israel would have no objections to the Palestinians being equally armed? EOM physioex Aug 2012 #34

until the 1960s gejohnston Aug 2012 #44

File under 'Wishful thinking'. COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #57

Is that an M1? ileus Aug 2012 #15

M1 Carbine .30, magazine not inserted. rDigital Aug 2012 #22

My neighbor and I will sit on his back porch ileus Aug 2012 #25

Nice. It's worth the cost. rDigital Aug 2012 #28

Carefull with that ammo! Most of the Korean stuff is corrosive, VERY corrosive. oneshooter Aug 2012 #83

I just ordered a cmmg conversion kit for the AR. ileus Aug 2012 #87

I've never stopped kicking myself in the ass for not buying a bunch of them when they were cheap slackmaster Aug 2012 #56

Yup I remember making fun of them way back when I thought guns were only for hunting. ileus Aug 2012 #88

She might have a 15 rund magazine in it. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #54

LOL. You are aware that Israel has far stricter gun laws than the US, right? DanTex Aug 2012 #17

if you ever actually traveled to any of those places, let alone gejohnston Aug 2012 #20

I think most of us know some gun nuts. Unfortunately, I've encountered far too many. Hoyt Aug 2012 #30

none of the ones I have met and known gejohnston Aug 2012 #31

I think you are looking at them from a gun cultist's perspective. Hoyt Aug 2012 #32

no, don't think so. BTW gejohnston Aug 2012 #33

None left carry a gun, so do not qualify for despicable organizations. Hoyt Aug 2012 #35

to what? gejohnston Aug 2012 #36

I bet as many Arabs meet the requirements as blacks met Americas post Civil War gun law requirements braddy Aug 2012 #23

I think the commentary is more about how to stop shootings rather than about gun laws. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #48

But the reality is, the way Isreal stops shootings is by having tight gun laws. DanTex Aug 2012 #55

which is nonsense gejohnston Aug 2012 #58

I'm not making any commentary on settlements. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #120

I imagine she knows how to use it, too davidthegnome Aug 2012 #29

I am all for stronger laws against trafficking. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #39

I agree with you there - focus on the 'who' rather than the 'what' petronius Aug 2012 #82

Here we go again. Please elaborate on what you think "Reasonable, smart gun control laws" shadowrider Aug 2012 #68

Unfortunately for too many the definition always seems to be "just a little more". 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #73

Yup. Always givin up. n/t shadowrider Aug 2012 #81

Alright. davidthegnome Aug 2012 #95

about mental illness gejohnston Aug 2012 #96

Do you know how many people... davidthegnome Aug 2012 #117

My response shadowrider Aug 2012 #118

Amazing how people show the sanitized version on one side and not the other... physioex Aug 2012 #40

Lesson I took away from the video. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #49

Unarmed? NOT Remmah2 Aug 2012 #94

Seriously? physioex Aug 2012 #114

Here's another one shadowrider Aug 2012 #51

A few more shadowrider Aug 2012 #52

ARM ALL THE TEACHERS! tk2kewl Aug 2012 #112

All teacher's I know have two arms. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #128