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In reply to the discussion: Why are people blaming the gun or the "arsenal" for Aurora? Read before commenting please. [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)105. What do "automatic assault weapons" have to do with it? N/T
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Why are people blaming the gun or the "arsenal" for Aurora? Read before commenting please. [View all]
shadowrider
Jul 2012
OP
I didn't say he wasn't responsible. I said he has a condition that should have been
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#3
The immediate call for increased gun control tells me the gun(s) are being blamed
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#5
yes there are other ways. So best not to do anything to make it less easy.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2012
#12
Those examples you offered don't prove knives can cause just as much damage as guns.
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#23
Are dead only dead if killed with guns in your view or do other means mean nothing?
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#44
Please cite for me some examples of a single individual killing a dozen or more people within minute
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#171
You don't think being able to kill from a distance makes killing more effective?
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#25
Indeed. You DON'T often hear of a single person managing to kill over a dozen people...
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#167
I didn't say they shouldn't be gun free but explain to me how you enforce it?
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#11
I said nothing of decriminalizing it. I asked how you enforce a no gun zone
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#32
I blame our idiotic gun culture and the absurd availability of weapons.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2012
#10
Yep. Without the guns this disturbed young man would likely not have done as much damage.
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#16
NOW you're getting it. Why wasn't this "unbalanced individual" treated when by all
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#18
Good. Mental health services in this particular case could have averted this tragedy.
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#90
Dude, get the memo. You're more dead if killed with a gun. Theyz evil I say n/t
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#33
Yes, I really think this guy would have been less likely to kill and maim the people he did
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#114
His ability to kill a lot of people plainly was limited, because his attempt at it WITHOUT a gun
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#121
If he didn't have a gun he could be crazy as a loon and those people would have enjoyed their movie
upaloopa
Jul 2012
#27
Sure. And the police department has been trying for a day and a half to get into
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#34
And yet, as you pointed out, unbalanced people have been known to use knives...
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#37
I chose to point out the math. As horrible as those attacks were, they did not leave as many killed
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#43
"Projection" is when someone ascribes his or her own attitudes and faults to others.
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#82
Yes, "less lethal" means that people who would have been likely killed in a gun attack
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#55
No. I'm saying you're discounting other means of mass murder and insisting guns are
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#59
Actually, I believe they said he was planning it as far as four months ahead.
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#84
Toting guns into public places takes no time and care. You already know your
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#99
And yet, isn't it interesting that most of the worst mass killings in this country
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#165
For the same reason you don't march onto certain military installations or parts of
Pamela Troy
Jul 2012
#187
Military and linquistic history have no bearing on the average American's feelings on the 2nd Amend.
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#87
The numbers are immaterial. They are instruments of death and both should both legal or illegal.
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#97
Who's to say in 20 or 50 or 100 years that nukes won't be cheap and handheld?
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#103
Why does 1 direction and target make a difference? The Second Amendment makes no such distinction.
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#107
I think you are misjudging the amount of fissionable material necessary for a bomb.
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#129
I think you are misjudging the level of sophistication and what it exactly takes to achieve...
Clames
Jul 2012
#130
Compare the size and calculative power of today's computers with those from 50 years ago
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#133
You seem to be forgetting that technology shrinks and improves over time. It doesn't stagnate.
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#148
You seem to think because it can't be done now, it can never be done. Your ignorance here is galling
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#150
If environmental impact was a cause for illegality, then millions would be without power, cars, jobs
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#163
You only think it's sh*t because it uses your argument to defend the indefensible
LonePirate
Jul 2012
#109
If you look at the termonology of "keep and bear arms" you need to determine what "arms" are
rl6214
Jul 2012
#139
The *availability* of legal *fertilizer* and legal *diesel fuel* enabled McVeigh to kill 168
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#69
There is no Federal Department of Needs. What someone can afford to buy is their
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#85
You could start by explaining how guns that weren't used in the CO shooting are relevant...
beevul
Jul 2012
#142
Disagree...he should not of had a gun or guns or explosives....but he did and we
movonne
Jul 2012
#71
At the very least, we shouldn't be making guns so easily available to disturbed
pnwmom
Jul 2012
#112
Which is my point. Personally, I think the guy should fry in a big time way.
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#146
Think what you want, but he should not have been able to gain access to such lethal equipment.
jonthebru
Jul 2012
#177
The Problem with the Argument "Guns Don't Kill People -- People Kill People" Is
On the Road
Jul 2012
#183