Gun Control & RKBA

permatex

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91. But he didn't did he?

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:17 PM

Jul 2012

What would I say, I would say that it's the POS thugs who initiated the whole thing and they should be charged accordingly. Your always condemning the legal gun owner and never placing the blame where it belongs, with the thugs, why is that?
Protecting your fellow robbers? Just a guess.

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Customer shoots two armed robbers at Internet cafe. [View all] GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 OP

What a couple of morons. permatex Jul 2012 #1

two dumbass nineteen y/o did a very stupid, stupid thing. a fucking ball bat! Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #2

Probably to go buy a gun that worked permatex Jul 2012 #3

I wonder if they were high on drugs or trying to get money for drugs. where are their parents? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #4

In a land of hoyts, HALO141 Jul 2012 #112

I am waiting to hear from those that will say oneshooter Jul 2012 #5

You forgot about the can of pork and beans and the bicycle wheel... rl6214 Jul 2012 #7

Only you and hoyt would carry such things into a Internet Cafe. oneshooter Jul 2012 #8

Why would I carry a can of pork and beans and a bicycle wheel into an Internet Cafe? rl6214 Jul 2012 #56

Because you mentioned it first. oneshooter Jul 2012 #57

No, actually hoyt mentioned it first in a thread weeks ago, I'm just replaying it rl6214 Jul 2012 #58

Well maybe he should have only shot the baseball-bat-carrying robber once. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #48

No good. He was unarmed (A bat doesn't count as a weapon, has to be a gun) shadowrider Jul 2012 #50

It is ridiculous that in 2012 in a supposedly modern nation these sorts of things still happen 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #6

Well played, sir or madam...well played! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #9

Where did the rest of our cowboy's bullets land? Hoyt Jul 2012 #10

Didn't read the article did you. Clames Jul 2012 #11

Oh I read article -- guy had inoperable gun, another a bat -- cowboy out to save his ass opened fire Hoyt Jul 2012 #14

Who cares if the gun was inoperable? He walked in with it. shadowrider Jul 2012 #16

In the world of hoyt permatex Jul 2012 #18

Heh shadowrider Jul 2012 #20

Heh Heh thelordofhell Jul 2012 #52

I know, creed of gun culture: never miss opportunity to shoot living targets AND Hoyt Jul 2012 #62

Creed of Hoyt: never miss an opportunity to misrepresent and falsely accuse. Clames Jul 2012 #69

It would seem to be what he does best. permatex Jul 2012 #70

Trolling or he thinks he is his post count here. Clames Jul 2012 #71

"Prove it." Hoyt Jul 2012 #73

Thats not hard at all permatex Jul 2012 #75

Shiite, even Weaver -- with "I gotta go to the bathroom, bad" -- does better than that. Hoyt Jul 2012 #78

Sorry Hoyt permatex Jul 2012 #80

The only thing you've "proven" would get my post hidden if I mentioned it. Hoyt Jul 2012 #82

Struck a nerve didn't I? permatex Jul 2012 #84

"Sometimes things are clear without the need to study them" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #92

You actually produce a link or proof? permatex Jul 2012 #17

hoyt you are soooooo predictable. See post#5. oneshooter Jul 2012 #39

We should have a running pool on reponse times.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #53

One shooter, if you had been there, would you have opened up with that many misses endangering Hoyt Jul 2012 #77

And the LEGAL CCW'er knew that how? permatex Jul 2012 #83

Were you there? If he had hit innocent bystander, what would say? Hoyt Jul 2012 #90

But he didn't did he? permatex Jul 2012 #91

So now you do remote sensing, too? I've read about people like you: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #87

If the bystanders were in just as much danger MainlyLurking Jul 2012 #95

Good, go blasting away in the same situation. Responsible gunners would question your shooting, Hoyt Jul 2012 #96

Didn't answer the question didja? permatex Jul 2012 #99

You weren't there either. All you know is gun involved, so you are happy whatever gun toter did. Hoyt Jul 2012 #100

I'd say he did a pretty good job at shooting straight. permatex Jul 2012 #102

"He perceived a deadly threat." Well, Permatex, maybe he was wrong -- gun lovers are many times. Hoyt Jul 2012 #103

In this case he wasn't now, was he? permatex Jul 2012 #105

And *that's* the nub of the gist, claimed powers of remote sensing aside... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #116

Hoyt, are you perchance Jim Channon? If so, it would explain a lot... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #119

Careful with permatex bongbong Jul 2012 #151

No threat at all permatex Jul 2012 #161

Thou Protesteth Too Much bongbong Jul 2012 #163

I rest my case. permatex Jul 2012 #167

LOL bongbong Jul 2012 #175

A police officer would have shot him right then and there as well. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #154

How do you define "many"? n/t NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #164

Maybe he should have sarisataka Jul 2012 #123

"...would you have opened up with that many misses endangering innocent bystanders?" PavePusher Jul 2012 #109

Two each, COM, and stand ready to continue. oneshooter Jul 2012 #144

You'll never know, but I'm sure I and others could have found a way to handle these clowns Hoyt Jul 2012 #146

Yeah permatex Jul 2012 #147

Might have just popped a bag and watch em mess the floor. Hoyt Jul 2012 #149

Cheering, no permatex Jul 2012 #150

Well Hoyt, your always complaining about people stuffing a gun or two down their pants permatex Jul 2012 #168

She could probably keep me off this group for awhile. We just wouldn't do gun talk. Hoyt Jul 2012 #169

Google funny gun control signs. permatex Jul 2012 #170

I gotta admit, if you can't walk out of your house without a gun, that is way it should be carried. Hoyt Jul 2012 #171

At least she wouldn't have to worry about shooting a pecker off. permatex Jul 2012 #172

Yeah, let us know if you ever face down some punk with a .45 in his hand. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #153

His gun held 6 rounds. Hit an arm, and two halves of an ass. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #152

Oh dear.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #55

I read the story. there were no cowboys present. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #126

Our "cowboy" took chances with people's lives to save himself. Hoyt Jul 2012 #127

what do you call bat boy? indian? your attitude toward human life shows little respect for anyone - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #129

I miss WWN *sigh* n/t sarisataka Jul 2012 #130

always grabbed one in the line at the grocery store, yeah - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #133

Exactly, so folks need to leave guns at home. Hoyt Jul 2012 #137

and what about ballbats??? and if these RUDE boys had not showed their ass we would never known Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #139

I've got the feeling that it wouldn't matter what the situation was. permatex Jul 2012 #136

So you're inside his head now? You know he wasn't trying to save all the other people in the room? AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #155

So Hoyt permatex Jul 2012 #162

A Florida cowboy would gejohnston Jul 2012 #128

I know about gun toters. Hoyt Jul 2012 #138

As a former armed robber you know about illegal gun toters, legal ones you don't know about. N/ZT GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #141

LOL permatex Jul 2012 #143

The only reason Hoyt is here is to disrupt, misrepresent, outright lie, permatex Jul 2012 #15

"Prove it." Hoyt Jul 2012 #74

See post #75 permatex Jul 2012 #76

How many rounds did he fire? Meiko Jul 2012 #35

A nunnery, a kindergarten, and a refuge for orphaned puppies 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #40

He musta had one of those 100,000 round extended magazines I've been hearing about n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #41

Worse, he had one of those shoulder things that goes up 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #44

Wow. Does that have heat seeking bullets? n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #46

Of course. How else could it be expected to only hit women and children? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #47

Not only heat seeking, but can discern gender and age. Impressive. n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #49

Good thing all the rounds Meiko Jul 2012 #79

Rude toter....hateful to society. ileus Jul 2012 #12

Not bad, but could use some more stress training. n/t oneshooter Jul 2012 #13

Why was no attempt made to disarm the robbers? SecularMotion Jul 2012 #19

Where in the world do you get the idea that LE duty is to disarm first? permatex Jul 2012 #21

Can you believe this? n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #23

Sadly permatex Jul 2012 #24

So if LE had arrived and found 2 suspects with guns and one with a bat SecularMotion Jul 2012 #26

Yes. permatex Jul 2012 #27

Can you prove, with links, you have two relatives who are cops? shadowrider Jul 2012 #28

LOL permatex Jul 2012 #32

Then any CCWer who pulls his weapon at a crime scene SecularMotion Jul 2012 #29

Any legal carrier that pulls his/her weapon with cops on the scene shadowrider Jul 2012 #30

I hope you didn't hurt yourself reaching for that goalpost. permatex Jul 2012 #31

Don't you know some DU'ers are brave enough to approach legal carriers, disarm them, shadowrider Jul 2012 #34

Don't forget this gem permatex Jul 2012 #37

Sure. Cops shoot undercover cops. TPaine7 Jul 2012 #33

Yes, most CCW carriers do indeed think of that. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #67

Do your CCW permit classes teach you to shoot first or to demand a suspect drop their weapon? SecularMotion Jul 2012 #81

Why would you announce youself first? permatex Jul 2012 #85

That's not really the sort of thing they teach, actually. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #88

The actions would be up to the carrier sarisataka Jul 2012 #93

Thanks for your response. I agree with all your points. SecularMotion Jul 2012 #97

You seemed to ask an honest question sarisataka Jul 2012 #124

Not that I disagree with your pros/cons breakdown HALO141 Jul 2012 #118

I considered it third party sarisataka Jul 2012 #121

Yeah, I figured. HALO141 Jul 2012 #125

Why the hell would I want to turn a shootING into a shootOUT?!? HALO141 Jul 2012 #117

If the weapon had been operable, the shooter would have been going up against a AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #159

You should take the class and find out for yourself slackmaster Jul 2012 #166

This is also why it's important to stay on the phone with the dispatcher.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #111

Agreed. And that, in turn, is a selling point for handguns over shotguns for home defense. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #145

Do you even consider not letting your imagination run away with you? Clames Jul 2012 #120

Yes, that can and has happened. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #158

The police very rarely arrive while the crime is being committed. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #165

The one with the gun, you bet. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #157

Silly permatex... From TV, of course! n/t HALO141 Jul 2012 #115

Sure, attempt to disarm a bad guy with a gun in the middle of a heinous crime shadowrider Jul 2012 #22

You forgot the sarcasm thingy... Some folks might think you actually believe that if you attempt TPaine7 Jul 2012 #25

Plus, don't overlook an opportunity to ask: "Why was no attempt made to fire a warning shot?" AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #36

- Snort - shadowrider Jul 2012 #42

Please show me where that is written. oneshooter Jul 2012 #38

Ask other DU'ers, that'll be proof n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #43

See that's the problem, they (cops) are law abiding citizens 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #45

Oh dear.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #54

Wrong again. Clames Jul 2012 #98

disarm a fucking ball bat?? tell me how. I am all ears. that is the rudest goddamn thing I can Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #131

Private civilians are never held to the same standard as a police officer. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #156

Batman wasn't there. Tejas Jul 2012 #160

Lots of replies from the gun-religionists bongbong Jul 2012 #51

We all bow to your expertise... TPaine7 Jul 2012 #60

Very good bongbong Jul 2012 #63

Back?!! TPaine7 Jul 2012 #64

What grade are you in now? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #65

No one who makes infantile posts like your "type with one hand" twaddle... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #68

Infantile? bongbong Jul 2012 #72

The concept of irony pretty much passes you by, dunnit? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #86

Yes! bongbong Jul 2012 #106

And logic as well, evidently. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #107

So do you have anything constructive to add? permatex Jul 2012 #108

Oh, I think I'm a pretty tough guy permatex Jul 2012 #89

Why don't you show us how permatex Jul 2012 #66

that's what You get for thinking. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #132

Horror in Texas: Father shoots four kids, wife, kills self bowens43 Jul 2012 #59

Off topic. Not related to the actual post. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #61

Please don't disrupt the thread sarisataka Jul 2012 #94

So if the father had used marsis Jul 2012 #104

that deserves it own OP - shall we talk about the underlying cause and stressors in this man's life? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #135

Probability is about 60% that at least one person will have a CCW with n = 30 jody Jul 2012 #101

I will accept your calculations. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #110

If criminals had a better background in statistics.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #113

My guess is that they were going by stereotype than statistics. gejohnston Jul 2012 #140

Love the way the butt-shot crim tries to portray himself as a victim. PavePusher Jul 2012 #114

It's a shame the customer wasn't a better shot. Higgs boson Jul 2012 #122

Welcome to DU.... and I don't know why but the name Higgs Bison popped into 2on2u Jul 2012 #134

No sir OriginalGeek Jul 2012 #142

I'm going to agree with you permatex Jul 2012 #148

Well, the upshot (so to speak) was a net positive, but there's a big chance the criminals will get Higgs boson Jul 2012 #176

The video shows him shooting as they are running away SecularMotion Jul 2012 #173

They could've had grenades. Tejas Jul 2012 #174

I'm sitting in that very internet cafe gejohnston Jul 2012 #177