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You would think Meiko Jul 2012 #1
Not drunk, probably PCP or Meth. Tejas Jul 2012 #60
Sounds like evolution at work to me. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #2
You and I and any sane person permatex Jul 2012 #3
Well done. But next time, try something harder and more useful.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #90
I promise I'll try harder next time. permatex Jul 2012 #95
Am I understanding a white guy shot a black guy. Guess that means no charges, and Hoyt Jul 2012 #4
Real classy Hoyt permatex Jul 2012 #5
Guns and racism are closely linked. Hoyt Jul 2012 #6
pop psy 101? gejohnston Jul 2012 #8
And yet you still own guns. Clames Jul 2012 #11
It is also true that gun control and racism are even more closely linked. ... spin Jul 2012 #61
Precisely! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #97
nice '03 era veteran Jul 2012 #112
Huh? PavePusher Jul 2012 #120
Looked too quickly era veteran Jul 2012 #129
That effusion of idiocy really deserves no reply... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #96
Yes. Guns have often been used to combat racism. PavePusher Jul 2012 #101
My gun is not racist in the least. Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #141
Racist thugs that assault customers get shot? Tejas Jul 2012 #155
Maybe the black guy was the racist gejohnston Jul 2012 #7
I think we know who racist is - guy who shot unarmed man. Hoyt Jul 2012 #9
fists are lethal weapons gejohnston Jul 2012 #10
I feel for those who can't handle UNARMED drunk, when they gotta a gun. Hoyt Jul 2012 #13
And I'm sure you'll be showing us the proof that he was a racist looking to shoot a black man, permatex Jul 2012 #14
Have you got proof otherwise. Facts speak for themselves. Hoyt Jul 2012 #17
Ahhhhhhhhh, I see you're usual deflect permatex Jul 2012 #19
"Guns and racism are closely linked." <--------- You mean "facts" like that? The kind that can't be cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #21
Proven to your gun tainted view of society? Impossible. Hoyt Jul 2012 #27
So, again, permatex Jul 2012 #28
All well and good, except that's not the way it went down, is it? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #51
But, we need to drive -- we don't need to shoot fellow citizens. Hoyt Jul 2012 #132
Driving has nothing to do with it permatex Jul 2012 #133
No, no-one really needs to drive. PavePusher Jul 2012 #135
1 dead racist, 1 living? Tejas Jul 2012 #130
Ever try to reason with a violent drunk or stoner? gejohnston Jul 2012 #16
I bet it's not false. Odds are in my favor. If I am wrong (not likely), Hoyt Jul 2012 #29
So provide the proof that this was racially motivated. permatex Jul 2012 #31
Well, statistics say you might manage to be right sometime.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #92
Like a broken clock or a blind squirrel. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #127
"racial impact" <----- HOYT continues with the race card. Tejas Jul 2012 #102
And I'm sure you have proof of this, right? permatex Jul 2012 #12
One can't even get you to admit randy weaver and d koresh are bad for society. Hoyt Jul 2012 #15
So in other words, no proof permatex Jul 2012 #18
I honestly don't think you gejohnston Jul 2012 #20
And where do you get you info about "violent drunk beating... "? Hoyt Jul 2012 #22
Same place you got your racist white man permatex Jul 2012 #24
You can, and have been. I think my version is valid here. Hoyt Jul 2012 #30
So prove your version is valid. Thats all we ask, provide proof, permatex Jul 2012 #35
listen with a closed mind -- that's Our Hoyt. I don't think he could get past Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #44
Not trying to be a jury member or be held to that standard. Hoyt Jul 2012 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #66
And just what exactly have you seen so far? permatex Jul 2012 #71
Ok then, What are you buying? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #87
If you read the stories gejohnston Jul 2012 #32
I'll wait for more reports. My guess is if shooter wanted to, he could Hoyt Jul 2012 #38
The video will tell all. gejohnston Jul 2012 #40
Me too. Hoyt Jul 2012 #45
Wow permatex Jul 2012 #43
"Violent drunk beating" is in the article. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #62
Sounds like something Zimmerman would say. Of course, you just assume shooting him was only option. Hoyt Jul 2012 #64
You can let someone beat on you if you want to. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #67
I know, you are probably one of those who'll shoot unarmed person over property, etc. Hoyt Jul 2012 #69
So why don't you show us just exactly where he said permatex Jul 2012 #77
Ask him. He is supporting a man with a gun who shot an UNARMED drunk when other options available. Hoyt Jul 2012 #79
You made the claim permatex Jul 2012 #81
Not machismo, just too old to take an ass whipping and not ready to die yet. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #104
And of course permatex Jul 2012 #72
Actually it does -- another fucker with a gun who shot an UNARMED black man when plenty of options Hoyt Jul 2012 #75
And you were there right? permatex Jul 2012 #76
I was there as much as you. Besides, I can read the facts released so far. Pretty obvious to me. Hoyt Jul 2012 #106
Facts? HALO141 Jul 2012 #108
White guy with a gun in Texas, shot a UNARMED drunk Black man and is claiming self-defense and that Hoyt Jul 2012 #109
You don't know me nearly well enough to make any of the assumptions HALO141 Jul 2012 #110
Maybe we'll get some photos of how badly the gun toter was hurt. My guess is, it will be even less Hoyt Jul 2012 #111
The law does not recognize any requisite level of injury HALO141 Jul 2012 #114
I know, gun toters hide behind the "law." Do you guys ever consider Hoyt Jul 2012 #115
Not in cases like this, no. HALO141 Jul 2012 #117
It is immoral for someone to assault me. It is moral for me to defend myself. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #118
Fine Hoyt, I have a challange for you. PavePusher Jul 2012 #119
I don't think our Texas toter was in danger of decomposing, or having much more than a bloody nose. Hoyt Jul 2012 #121
You were 100% correct as far as "I don't think..."... PavePusher Jul 2012 #122
From start to finish, I'm averaging 50%, significantly better than you. Hoyt Jul 2012 #123
The hell you are. PavePusher Jul 2012 #124
Like your buddy above, opinions don't require cites. Hoyt Jul 2012 #125
Bullshit. Unmitigated mendacity. You made numerous claims as facts, not as opinion. PavePusher Jul 2012 #126
Ok... sarisataka Jul 2012 #116
I'm sure you have a mental picture of how everything went down HALO141 Jul 2012 #134
Not me era veteran Jul 2012 #113
Not really impressed by your machismo without a gun. Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #142
I personally believe that permatex Jul 2012 #23
could be, but gejohnston Jul 2012 #25
Before my time permatex Jul 2012 #26
she was a trip gejohnston Jul 2012 #36
She was quite insightful if that were her conclusions, although I think "all" might be a little high Hoyt Jul 2012 #46
insightful once in awhile, mostly incoherent and heavy into the gejohnston Jul 2012 #49
She had a gift HALO141 Jul 2012 #89
I've never alerted on anyone. Bet you can't say that. Hoyt Jul 2012 #34
How do we know you haven't? permatex Jul 2012 #37
I know, you need proof. Heck, you'll believe Zimmerman and weaver, but.... Hoyt Jul 2012 #39
Weaver is public record gejohnston Jul 2012 #41
To you. To me, he made an illegal gun deal while attending a friggin Ayran Nation meeting. Hoyt Jul 2012 #47
And for that "offense" the FBI shot and killed his wife... GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #52
Weaver hid behind his wife and kids, when he should have walked out (without lethal weapons). Hoyt Jul 2012 #65
His politics did NOT make it OK for the FBI to shoot on sight. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #68
No, his trafficking in illegal guns and refusal to give himself up is what caused shooting. Hoyt Jul 2012 #70
Are you really that dense? permatex Jul 2012 #74
"Entrapped?" BS, he thought he was dealing with another worthless racist like himself. He thought Hoyt Jul 2012 #78
A jury seemed to disagree with you permatex Jul 2012 #82
The jury ruled on the legality of the charges brought by inept prosectutors, not the morality of Hoyt Jul 2012 #84
You really are that dense. permatex Jul 2012 #86
New jury instructions sarisataka Jul 2012 #105
I heard GITMO is hiring. Tejas Jul 2012 #146
Not a poster boy. HALO141 Jul 2012 #94
Yes, entrapped. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #98
You can't make up the fact that Weaver is/was a racist neo-Nazi, ready to contribute to the Ayran Hoyt Jul 2012 #107
So that made it okay to blow his wife's face off? Tejas Jul 2012 #57
No, it's not OK. Weaver should have thought about that before agreeing to aid Ayran Nation in thier Hoyt Jul 2012 #73
Oh man, Hoyt, permatex Jul 2012 #80
They didn't just show up one day, Weaver knew for some time they were there to arrest his gun Hoyt Jul 2012 #83
How can I be friends with a dead kid? permatex Jul 2012 #85
You paid his "gun loving, racist ass" $100,000 Tejas Jul 2012 #100
Shooting a woman in the face, your justification. Tejas Jul 2012 #99
While he may have been "responsible for all that happened to HIM", the FBI is responsible for all cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #128
Don't ya know? permatex Jul 2012 #131
So, she DESERVED to die. Tejas Jul 2012 #136
Yes and 14 year old Sammy gejohnston Jul 2012 #137
It's like Hoyt said: "Weaver's fault" Tejas Jul 2012 #140
It was koresch's fault. He had 51 days to surrender, but chose to hide behind his flock. Hoyt Jul 2012 #143
Are you ATF? Tejas Jul 2012 #144
In the 51 days koresch could have given up, he chose to remain with his guns and underaged teenagers Hoyt Jul 2012 #148
I don't think he could have gejohnston Jul 2012 #149
Why would they pick up a gun nut in town where innocents are around? That would be crazy/stupid. Hoyt Jul 2012 #151
"Since you asked, " - and to my surprise... Tejas Jul 2012 #150
No one deserved to die. But, blame it on weaver's illegal and immoral activities. Hoyt Jul 2012 #138
HELLO..................Lon Horiuchi = $3.1m out-of-court settlement Tejas Jul 2012 #139
What exactly was Weaver convicted of? gejohnston Jul 2012 #145
What was bush/cheney convicted of? How about Hitler, Stalin, OJ, Jack the Ripper, Blake, Anthony. Hoyt Jul 2012 #152
I only did a quick search, there may be more sarisataka Jul 2012 #153
What do they have to do with weaver? They are immoral people who might not have been convicted. Hoyt Jul 2012 #156
lowlife Gerry Spence? gejohnston Jul 2012 #157
From the top gejohnston Jul 2012 #154
Naw permatex Jul 2012 #42
THE Randy Weaver that was awarded $100,000 ? Tejas Jul 2012 #56
Make shit up much? PavePusher Jul 2012 #93
Hoyt is on the hotline with DPD as we speak. Tejas Jul 2012 #59
There ought to be a law, eh Hoyt? Tejas Jul 2012 #55
Cite your evidence of the shooter's racism, please. PavePusher Jul 2012 #91
No RACE-BAITING here folks, move along. Tejas Jul 2012 #53
I doubt it was even alerted. If it was, I wish someone would share the results. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #88
Has there been video of this case? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #33
You Tube Meiko Jul 2012 #48
I mean the e-z trip shooting. why would feds be involved? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #50
Sorry Meiko Jul 2012 #58
Yes, but not released yet. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #54
If the POS weren't dead, he would be in jail. Tejas Jul 2012 #103
You know, it's funny... Marinedem Jul 2012 #147
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