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Meiko

(1,076 posts)
24. Your best practice
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:02 PM
Jun 2012

is to gain all the information you can. Make copies of all the paperwork and notify your local ATF that you had what you believe was an attempted straw purchase. They will then interview you and take any paperwork or copies you might have. The ATF will take the 4473 used so make sure you make a copy for your records.What I was told by my ATF inspector was that I could refuse a sale for any reason. I did not need probable cause or anything else.

If the customer was nervous and I thought something was afoot I could refuse the transaction. If his ID looked wrong for any reason or he had alcohol on his breath. If there were two people that seemed to be involved in the purchase of the gun I could refuse.. I refused a sale one Saturday afternoon because the guy was being a pain in the ass, aggressive and abusive. He reported me to the ATF. The ATF agent called me and asked what happened so I told him, he said no problem. He told the customer to go back to me and apologize and behave himself or he was going to have a hard time getting his gun. The ATF backs the FFL on this point. After all these are guns we are talking about. I was not about to transfer a gun to an angry half drunk person with a serious attitude problem. If I give him the gun and he goes next door to the subway and kills the teller because the kid lipped off to him the cops and possibly the ATF will want to talk to me, I don't want that hanging over my head. During the time I held my FFL I refused several sales and had several background check denials, you get used to it. Some FFL's are not as careful they are only interested in the money end of it.

Why do guns keep making their owners misuse them? ileus Jun 2012 #1
What about this gun is "illegal"? Clames Jun 2012 #2
They waited until the end of the article to admit they do not know if the gun was illegal or not. ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #4
And the solution is .... ? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #3
Don't bother asking. Clames Jun 2012 #5
Did I miss the part of the article where they call for ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #6
Only at the gun buy backs. nt Remmah2 Jun 2012 #8
Immature people. Remmah2 Jun 2012 #7
I held an Meiko Jun 2012 #9
I once tried to sell a .22 revolver via classified add. Callisto32 Jun 2012 #17
"To the mostly white gun dealers who sell to the people who resell guns on the street..." DonP Jun 2012 #10
That's what I can't wrap my head around. NewMoonTherian Jun 2012 #12
I am an attorney in PA. Callisto32 Jun 2012 #14
I think much of the confusion lies in the fact that while the rest of PA... PavePusher Jun 2012 #23
Never point a firearm at something you are not willing to destroy... Callisto32 Jun 2012 #11
Thanks heavens they didn't teach them any gun safety in school. DonP Jun 2012 #15
I don't mean to be callous... Callisto32 Jun 2012 #16
Probably small "i" ignorance at work DonP Jun 2012 #19
If there are gun dealers who are complicit in illegal trafficking... NewMoonTherian Jun 2012 #13
I believe that an FFL who suspects a straw purchase is required to report that to BATFE-I-E-I-O. Callisto32 Jun 2012 #18
Unless of course the BATFE tells you to sell it to them anyway. N/T DonP Jun 2012 #20
Of course, you should always do what your betters in government tell you to do... Callisto32 Jun 2012 #21
Your best practice Meiko Jun 2012 #24
Interesting post. Good information. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #25
Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Jun 2012 #22
I don't see it that way Trunk Monkey Jun 2012 #26
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