"Legally allowing women to shoot their rapists only encourages murders."

[gejohnston]

66. Smith and Wesson is not a big corporation.

In fact, I doubt the all of the gun companies in US and Europe combined are "big corporations" on the level of BP or Koch.

Don't trick yourself. Guns are openly available now now because the oligarchs have everyone else beaten by a couple laps in the arms race, and also, they know how to manipulate an armed populace to work for them, or at least they believe so. For good reason, for even the most intelligent people can get tripped up in their propaganda.

Umm, no. Actually, look at the membership or donors of Brady and VPC. One foundation and a couple of million and billionaires. Even some right wing celebs like Sly Stallone. Some left leaning ones like Rosie O' Donnell too. What you don't see is a grassroots movement of any kind. Your problem is not the NRA, ALEC or any other boogeyman. Your problem is stringing together various logical fallacies and distortions and trying to make arguments out of it.

Besides, what does SYG have to do with armed rebellion against the oligarchy anyway? Nothing, except guns. The fact that the discussion one brings automatically chime in with the other tells me that you're more informed by dubious social theories and hypotheticals than any facts. If you're so numb to relevance, I don't think you can read a case or a law right even if you can cite it correctly.

How do you think most gun control laws were passed in the day? Europe, Canada, and Australia it was mostly the red scare in the 1920s. Before the 1960s, the south had the strictest gun laws other than New York. None of them were for what we would agree would be the right reasons.

Unless you can tell me why the oligarchs sell us so many guns when they don't want us to have them, and how SYG has anything to do with the class struggle against them, you're same level of credibility with me as Big Foot witnesses, Birthers, 9/11 revisionists and Scientologists. And I bet you think I'm a jerk because you're likely one of those, too.

Oligarchs might make them, but they are not selling them. None of them are bankers or oil companies. Read up on Blair Mountain and Haymarket riots and think about it.
No I'm not. What bigfoot witnesses have to do with it, I have no idea. New species are discovered all the time. I am not saying they do or do not exist. I am simply agnostic. As for your birther smear, that may be against the TOS. I'm not a Scientologist. My father was a Mormon (and went through the motions when I was a kid) and my daughter is a Wiccan, so I detest religious bigots on the left as much as I do the ones on the right.

Oh yeah, You can read them for yourself here.

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/256/335/case.html
http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/158/550/