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Trash the whole thing if you ditch the one that matters. ileus Jun 2012 #1
Not necessarily about RKBA but Churchill said discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #3
The RKBA is an extension... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #2
Of course it belongs. Blanks Jun 2012 #4
Welcome to DU discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #5
Do you belong to a well regulated militia. GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #34
membership in one was never required gejohnston Jun 2012 #37
Two of them sarisataka Jun 2012 #42
I belong to the well regulated militia of my castle. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #50
I am a member of the unorganized militia (read: people) of Maryland Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #55
I'm definitely unorganized. nt Remmah2 Jun 2012 #59
Who makes up the Militia? ileus Jun 2012 #60
I know, I know SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #61
ding ding ding...we have a winner. Either way the people have the RKBA. ileus Jun 2012 #64
So do I get a prize for the winning answer? nt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #66
I can mail you some mining stickers... ileus Jun 2012 #75
Naw thats ok SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #76
Didn't the first militia of this country (colonial) fight *against* the government (British)? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #146
Depends on what you wish to call the first militia... sarisataka Jun 2012 #147
Not anymore. I was in the army. Blanks Jun 2012 #84
I'm willing to bet money you're still legally in at least two militias n/t Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #85
Why is 'well-regulated militia' in the 2nd amendment? Blanks Jun 2012 #86
There's room for disagreement on that, Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #87
I disagree. Blanks Jun 2012 #107
Those rights belonged to the states and people, anyway Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #108
I never said they were protecting a subset Blanks Jun 2012 #109
Ah, pardon my assumption. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #112
It is my own interpretation.... Blanks Jun 2012 #115
Oh, there are definitely exceptions. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #117
It is not a qualifier, it is one reason for existence. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #88
It isn't a qualifier. Go back and study English grammar. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #102
Perhaps qualifier isn't the best word Blanks Jun 2012 #104
All nine... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #105
Do Collectives, like corporations have rights? Blanks Jun 2012 #106
I hesitate... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #111
Don't bongbong Jun 2012 #114
Name one. gejohnston Jun 2012 #118
rofl bongbong Jun 2012 #120
name one liberal position in gejohnston Jun 2012 #123
So list all those cases so we can see the strength of your argument. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #122
One of the many articles gun-religionists hate bongbong Jun 2012 #125
An article on the racist and Republican roots of gun control? hack89 Jun 2012 #126
Thanks sarisataka Jun 2012 #127
Selective reading bongbong Jun 2012 #132
But we were discussing legal precedent hack89 Jun 2012 #133
Glad we don't fail you, but I'm more delighted that you fail yourself aikoaiko Jun 2012 #143
LOL bongbong Jun 2012 #164
Conservatives/Liberals discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #165
wow SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #128
LOL bongbong Jun 2012 #131
Can you be anymore ridiculous? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #134
So have you posted any SCOTUS rulings that say the 2A SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #140
How so? gejohnston Jun 2012 #129
"The fear inspired by black people with guns also led the United States Congress to consider new gun hack89 Jun 2012 #135
"Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control." nt hack89 Jun 2012 #136
"Gun-control measures, like many other laws, were used to oppress African Americans." nt hack89 Jun 2012 #137
That's literally the entire story of MD gun control n/t Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #141
"The most infamous of these disarmament posses, of course, was the Ku Klux Klan." nt hack89 Jun 2012 #138
North sought to reaffirm the freedmen’s constitutional rights, including their right to possess guns hack89 Jun 2012 #139
Sure era veteran Jun 2012 #6
It is part of our Constitution, as are the other parts of the Bill of Rights. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #7
That's fair. I'd argue that limitations on any enumerated right in the BoR should petronius Jun 2012 #39
But before we can discuss such restrictions, we have to agree on the intent of the amendment. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #89
No. The second amendment is obsolete and the wording needs to be removed Gman Jun 2012 #8
We still have people. nt rrneck Jun 2012 #9
We still have people?? Gman Jun 2012 #28
*sigh* rrneck Jun 2012 #32
I happen to agree, we need to ditch any mention of militia, so it's clear for everyone. ileus Jun 2012 #41
They'll figure it out soon enough rrneck Jun 2012 #54
I disagree gejohnston Jun 2012 #10
If you feel that strongly about it, then start a drive to ammend the US Constitution. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #11
"feel that strongly about it"? Gman Jun 2012 #27
Oh I don't know gejohnston Jun 2012 #30
Seems you don't understand the diference... Clames Jun 2012 #49
"Gun nuts generally are not literate enough to understand the written word" Spoonman Jun 2012 #74
When you write that an amendment to the US Constitution is *obsolete*, that's an extremely SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #130
So you jump from one amendment to the entire constitution Gman Jun 2012 #142
What's the point of having a Constitution, then? Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #144
I'll bet you long for the days of Prohibition Gman Jun 2012 #151
Hehe, look up the origin of the "Free State" nickname Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #153
One amendment or the entire Constitution is the same. You really are a one trick pony. SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #145
What a travesty that they repealed the 18th Gman Jun 2012 #150
Repealing part of the Constitution is one thing -- violating it is another Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #154
The important difference sarisataka Jun 2012 #156
And the 2nd could be repealed the same way Gman Jun 2012 #160
You are correct sarisataka Jun 2012 #161
Since the 2A is protection of personal rights, any attempt... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #162
Invoking the old Chinese curse sarisataka Jun 2012 #163
As I said earlier, if you don't like the 2nd amendment, then work to repeal it. It worked out well SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #158
What do you think the National Guard IS? nt TheWraith Jun 2012 #29
People, as in Private Citizens, make up The National Guard and the US Armed Forces Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #52
If a Guard member had to supply his own musket Gman Jun 2012 #69
But in Switzerland gejohnston Jun 2012 #70
The 2 A says the people have the right to keep and bear sarisataka Jun 2012 #71
fail. but, whatever. sell your own soul if it makes you happy. liberty for me. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #81
Good grief Gman Jun 2012 #152
oh dear. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #155
This, of course, is PRECISELY why the right to keep and bear arms was reserved to the PEOPLE. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #90
I say 'Yes', for two reasons: first, I think the Framers had it right when petronius Jun 2012 #12
Where's our resident SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #13
perhaps discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #15
LOL! bongbong Jun 2012 #65
Your whole argument has been proven bullshit SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #67
LOL indeed bongbong Jun 2012 #113
There was not SCOTUS that said gejohnston Jun 2012 #119
Nope bongbong Jun 2012 #121
that is not an answer. gejohnston Jun 2012 #124
And just who is the Govt.? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #68
In this description of the militia... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #83
Finally SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #17
yw Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #53
If I said, "I'm completely out of soda, I'm going to the store." Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #92
While I am not personally a huge fan of gun ownership, SheilaT Jun 2012 #14
Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #20
Exellent post SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #22
Add to your quotes about constitutions safeinOhio Jun 2012 #16
How could my pale understanding... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #18
Agreed, and safeinOhio Jun 2012 #23
Prefatory clause or not, "people" are "people." LAGC Jun 2012 #19
does the prefatory Oneka Jun 2012 #44
It qualifies it and gives it boundaries. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #57
It has one boundary: the people. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #63
Another constitutional point with a prefatory clause. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #93
Maybe when the right wingers on the Court are removed, we'll revisit this w/o the NRA up their ass. Hoyt Jun 2012 #21
Your dream of the SCOTUS SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #24
So "loathe" that they overturned precedent in this case. Besides, every case is a bit different. Hoyt Jun 2012 #80
Dream on Hoyt, Dream on SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #82
Name one liberal on that court. gejohnston Jun 2012 #25
Thank you, very sincerely :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #72
I genuinely appreciate your polite tone. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #148
You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #149
Even Stevens agrees that the second amendment is an individual right. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #94
Yeah, you might have a right to keep one gun in a safe at home if in a Hoyt Jun 2012 #98
it is one sentence. gejohnston Jun 2012 #99
You need to look a little closer at the grammatical structure. Hoyt Jun 2012 #100
it explains the reason gejohnston Jun 2012 #103
I believe it specifically states armS. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #101
Constitutional Topic: The Second Amendment Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #26
If properly interpreted as the anachronism it is. Loudly Jun 2012 #31
Instead of talking about the injustice of the 2ND Amendment SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #33
That's like circulating a petition against Jim Crow in 1955 Alabama. Loudly Jun 2012 #35
Nice try Shares SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #36
If I was the age I am now at the time of Plessy v. Ferguson Loudly Jun 2012 #38
Again, nice try Shares SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #40
Your argument for needing a gun or claiming an imaginary right to posses one Loudly Jun 2012 #43
Ok... sarisataka Jun 2012 #45
Guns as a solution to guns Loudly Jun 2012 #48
Guns as a tool for self defense SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #51
I thought the nation was moving forward sarisataka Jun 2012 #56
You do realize that is a classic empty cliche talking point. Remmah2 Jun 2012 #79
Weapons have been a solution to weapons for all of recorded history. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #96
Another classic Shares meme. Straw Man Jun 2012 #110
That gun violence that has declined to historic lows? hack89 Jun 2012 #46
Yeah, we might be approaching the tipping point of not having any violent crime. LOL Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #97
My imaginary right to posses one SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #47
"Rushing towards the tipping point of gun violence"? The FBI disagrees with you, Shares: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #91
The modernity shuffle. beevul Jun 2012 #116
Since the 2A... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #78
How is it an anachronism? Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #95
The Constitution is a delicate balance. Remmah2 Jun 2012 #58
Some people forget;... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #62
Some forget and some have never learned. nt Remmah2 Jun 2012 #73
Yeah; sad. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #77
BREAKING: Part of the US Constitution declared to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #157
+1 SlimJimmy Jun 2012 #159
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