Gun Control & RKBA

Hoyt

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78. Kind of embarrassing to be gun advocate, carrier, etc., when something like this happens, isn't it?

Fri Jun 1, 2012, 01:21 AM

Jun 2012

Sooner or later, you'll have to admit that guns have gotten out of control. And probably because of the right wing legislators, rwing organized gun lobbyist organizations, rwing Tbaggers, militias, bigots, and a few folks/groups who should think more about society.

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Gun nut kills five in Seattle shooting spree...he collected guns AND had a concealed carry permit. [View all] Cali_Democrat May 2012 OP

I can't believe I'm writing this; but ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #1

According to some posters here SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #3

And you would know that HOW, exactly? elleng May 2012 #6

By reading. SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #9

And bongbong May 2012 #17

Isn't that YOUR specialty? rl6214 May 2012 #35

Uh, call me crazy but maybe, JUST MAYBE Tejas May 2012 #60

I can answer that MichaelHarris May 2012 #65

Are you sure he wasn't a Brazil Nut? era veteran May 2012 #2

Or maybe a Pea-Nut. SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #4

Filbert slackmaster May 2012 #24

Why is it OK Meiko May 2012 #5

Because it's not LBN, that's why. krispos42 May 2012 #39

So you can put anything you want up there? Meiko Jun 2012 #102

Within DU rules, of course krispos42 Jun 2012 #112

I don't think your headline change is appropriate Renew Deal May 2012 #7

Probably a nut with a gun ileus May 2012 #8

I wish I could agree with you; but ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #15

You are correct... ileus May 2012 #21

You're not looking very hard then. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #79

Do they? This shooter doesn't fit your role model MichaelHarris May 2012 #66

"Nut with a gun" or "Gun nut" -- this would not have happened without a gun. Hoyt May 2012 #10

What is it with you and Zimm.......Oh never mind. SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #11

He's just one of those gun lovers that you guys would have hugged in photos as a law-abiding Hoyt May 2012 #16

Oh, I'd hug him, alright... BiggJawn May 2012 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Jun 2012 #76

I'll never understand people who victimize guns. ileus May 2012 #12

Brilliant, Hoyt. Just brilliant. slackmaster May 2012 #14

I can tell you this Slack, I see no reason to keep coddling those who want more guns in society. Hoyt May 2012 #19

I like the idea of having more guns in circulation for just one reason slackmaster May 2012 #20

Ummmm......sigs, S&W's, CZ's..... ileus May 2012 #23

I know Ileus, you are trying to accumulate best gun for all uses including shooting those fleeing Hoyt May 2012 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author ileus May 2012 #26

You can start with the thread you wrote about what gun everyone would choose while Hurricane Irene Hoyt May 2012 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author ileus May 2012 #31

How typical of you- no link to this alleged thread. friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #33

here is the link ileus May 2012 #42

My apologies. You did not start that thread. You did join in the callous discussion though. Hoyt May 2012 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #82

That was a callous thread- not a one of your posts impelled anyone to do anything differently. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #82

Having a firearm during a natural disaster such as a hurricane ... spin May 2012 #43

Don't coddle us. NewMoonTherian May 2012 #58

That follows your usual posts. era veteran May 2012 #22

Tbaggers are probably the biggest group of gun owners, toters, NRA members, bloggers on Stormfront Hoyt May 2012 #27

Plenty of Democrats own and even legally carry firearms ... spin May 2012 #44

I give you credit for posting the part about the vast majority opposing Hoyt May 2012 #46

I generally disagree with your positions on the public carry of firearms but ... spin May 2012 #49

Bullshit era veteran Jun 2012 #90

O.K. I went to the site ... spin Jun 2012 #91

I am sorry that should have been a response to Hoyt era veteran Jun 2012 #92

That's what I suspected ... spin Jun 2012 #118

I don't think zimmerman or loughner were involved in this situation rl6214 May 2012 #36

95% of all homicides incidents have a single victims. krispos42 May 2012 #41

Yep, and majority are domestic or among criminals too. Yet you guys want to carry in churches, etc. Hoyt May 2012 #50

I would never carry in church. BiggJawn May 2012 #56

Toter Heathen! n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #82

Whatever happened to church/state separation? GreenStormCloud May 2012 #57

Quit being obtuse -- I'm talking toting in public parks, restaurants, stores, city streets, ETC. Hoyt May 2012 #59

In post #50, you listed, "...churches...". GreenStormCloud May 2012 #63

My cat says thanks. Glad none of the cats or shelter staff jumped you. Hoyt May 2012 #67

Tiny town. Everybody know everybody. They knew me. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #110

Glad the cat is back. They really do have at least 9 lives. Hoyt Jun 2012 #111

Where do you think churches are? krispos42 Jun 2012 #113

I bet my rear you aren't going to the church in "shitty neighborhood." Is that why you carry, to Hoyt Jun 2012 #124

No bet... krispos42 Jun 2012 #126

Not surprisingly, those in burbs often fear those in"shitty" areas, as you describe it. Hoyt Jun 2012 #127

Those in the shitty areas also often fear the shitty areas, too. krispos42 Jun 2012 #128

The way Hoyt describes his neck of the woods, gejohnston Jun 2012 #130

Someone would have to have a gun before I was in church. era veteran Jun 2012 #123

That's an acceptable reason to carry IMO -- to keep someone from dragging you into a church. Hoyt Jun 2012 #125

Common ground in the big tent party!! era veteran Jun 2012 #129

Your omniscience is... truely magnificent. PavePusher Jun 2012 #81

The term Gun Nut in its most common form is a mild insult at worst slackmaster May 2012 #13

Used by the right person gun-nut is fine ileus May 2012 #18

Now see what you've done? TheCowsCameHome May 2012 #28

Hey, this IS the Gungeon after all. slackmaster May 2012 #29

Alas, so true. TheCowsCameHome May 2012 #38

Well, I did just come in from the wood shop.... n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #85

Gang members. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #32

Way to go in misleading everyone with your own, made up title for the article. rl6214 May 2012 #34

Not the first time for the restrictionistas: friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #37

About par for the course rl6214 May 2012 #40

Update: gunman kills self ManiacJoe May 2012 #45

mentall ilness = gun nut? nice slur to either group --- Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #48

The perp would have been impotent without his guns in this case. Hoyt May 2012 #51

You know this through fantasy or ? Tejas May 2012 #61

Just know a lot of gun owners/toters. Hoyt May 2012 #62

I'm sure the ones you know are typical of the ones you know... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #80

And what do they think of your analogy? Tejas Jun 2012 #122

nice turn of a phrase you chose Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #64

Right, 'cause there are no other lethal tools.... PavePusher Jun 2012 #86

The guy was mentally ill and those killed were friends of my kid. uppityperson May 2012 #52

My deepest condolences SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #53

The guy was a nut, with a gun. Not a gun nut. I'll rant against gun nuts but this guy was just menta uppityperson May 2012 #54

I'll be dammed -- he was a "gun nut" with permit and everything. Hoyt May 2012 #68

like improve mental health services? gejohnston May 2012 #69

Agree with that. But we don't have to make it easy on folks like this, Zimmerman, etc., to kill Hoyt May 2012 #71

Indeed. n/t Cali_Democrat May 2012 #70

Gross. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #121

THAT PERMIT IS THE ONLY REASON THIS TERRIBLE CRIME HAPPENED! slackmaster May 2012 #74

Kind of embarrassing to be gun advocate, carrier, etc., when something like this happens, isn't it? Hoyt Jun 2012 #78

So, when someone gets killed by a licenced driver, all licenced drivers are at fault. PavePusher Jun 2012 #87

Yep. And everybody with a computer that has Net access is responsible for this guy: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #89

We are not talking cars -- we are talking lethal weapons that you guys lobby on behalf of. Hoyt Jun 2012 #94

Lets talk alchohol then hack89 Jun 2012 #108

Cars are very much lethal weapons, and with a far higher accidental death rate. PavePusher Jun 2012 #116

Preach it, Brother Anslinger! friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #88

I feel absolutely no responsibility, shame, or embarrassment from any action that was not my fault slackmaster Jun 2012 #93

"Basic gun safety" to people who carry guns on city streets -- that's a joke. Hoyt Jun 2012 #95

Many of my students have been children and teens. None had ever handled a firearm previously. slackmaster Jun 2012 #97

I'm safe with the gun I carry on my town's streets, safe when I go into the supermarket with it, SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #98

Zimmerman and Stawicki were "safe" too, right up until circumstances changed and they shot someone. Hoyt Jun 2012 #106

Your just too precious SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #107

So had already decided in his mind to kill 5 people Meiko Jun 2012 #103

I MUST BE RIGHT BECAUSE I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS!!!111!!! slackmaster Jun 2012 #109

No, but because NRA and gun "advocates" try to make them acceptable -- we end up with this. Hoyt Jun 2012 #115

Your surprise only underscores how rare this combination of circumstances is. krispos42 Jun 2012 #114

You should edit this again. I don't particularly care about "gun nut", but using "nut" petronius May 2012 #72

I wonder how the jury would go on this if it was alerted? Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #73

As a juror, honestly, I'd hit 'Hide' based on that line after "Update" petronius Jun 2012 #75

but, slurs against the mentally ill is NOT ok. Nut is a derogatory term and in this case it Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #120

What are you going to "alert" on -- somebody posted story of CCWer who killed 5 innocent people. Hoyt Jun 2012 #96

Hoyt rails impotently at a shadowy group he calls "you guys" and attempts to associate them... slackmaster Jun 2012 #99

"You guys" and Zimmerman/Loughner. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #101

I was wondering how long it would take you to bring SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #100

Hey, Zimmerman captures in one word what a law-abiding gun owner is like right up until they shoot Hoyt Jun 2012 #104

Wash, rinse, lather, repeat. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #105

Accusations, again? SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #117

the slur against the mentally ill AND the slur equating gun owner with being Mentally Ill. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #119

I'm sure he wouldn't have carried a gun otherwise Union Scribe Jun 2012 #77