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Response to DanTex (Reply #33)

Sat May 12, 2012, 07:06 PM

34. Russia is not the only example

and very few of their murders are committed with guns.

But, obviously, Russia is lawless and crime-ridden for reasons that have nothing to do with gun laws, the same as for the other favorite pro-gunner example, Mexico.
Same can be true of parts of the US that are crime ridden. Some parts of Chicago and DC come to mind. Some parts of those cities are very safe. Then there is Vermont. Still no evidence that gun laws have more of an impact than wealth distribution.
You still have not connected the dots. The bit about health care is a red herring. No one is saying that their strict gun laws are the reason for their murder rates. Still, Brazil is still highly developed and have a higher murder rate than Mexico. Still, why does the level of development trump gun laws? By international standards, our murder rate is quite low.

... Despite the fact that the US doesn't have a particularly high violent crime rate by international standards, we have an astronomical homicide rate. Why? Because a lot more violent crimes here are committed with guns, and gun crimes are much more likely to result in homicide than violent crimes committed without guns.
Kind of flimsy, have something to base it on?

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