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In the discussion thread: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store [View all]

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:12 PM

rl6214 (7,435 posts)

12. But people NEVER use knives in mass assaults

and gun owners can NEVER get their firearm out in time to stop any attack and if they do it will just be taken away and used on them.

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just in case it's needed.

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165 replies	Author	Time	Post
Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store [View all]	Marengo	Apr 2012	OP
Child brings loaded gun to Daisy Bates Elementary	bowens43	Apr 2012	#1
Bowens43, your reply appears to be extemporaneous	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#2
The relevance is obvious to most of us. Anecdotes selected for emotional impact don't MEAN anything	saras	Apr 2012	#5
Actually, that is not true. All it takes is one fact to disprove a theory.	Atypical Liberal	Apr 2012	#6
Thankfully the crazy wasn't carrying one of the guns the gun culture loves.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#11
Of course you would have disarmed him with some pork and beans then	rl6214	Apr 2012	#13
Never, ever, bring a knife to a gunfight.	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#26
Or a staff or can of pork and beans	rl6214	Apr 2012	#72
Vienna sausages would be better. Smaller can, more reload.	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#106
good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I clicked on your post	rl6214	Apr 2012	#120
How many people carry staffs?	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#16
"Ram a staff into his face"...LOL	beevul	Apr 2012	#19
point!	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#20
Better than carrying a silly gun.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#25
You must really believe...	Clames	Apr 2012	#31
And you must believe you are powerless, and threats to you are more	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#34
Powerless?	Clames	Apr 2012	#38
Bull, probably could have yelled "stop I have a gun" and stopped the whole thing.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#41
Sometimes bluffing works, sometimes it does not.	ManiacJoe	Apr 2012	#44
Agreed. All CCW guns should be serious. n/t	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#32
A "silly gun" stopped this attacker, not a staff or a can of beans	Marengo	Apr 2012	#37
A pretty girl probably would have stopped him too. Live in fear if you like.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#42
You are suggesting a "pretty girl" would have been as effective as the firearm...	Marengo	Apr 2012	#48
and if the robber was gay	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#51
Well, you'd have to improvise.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#52
"A pretty girl probably would have stopped him too." How disgusting of you.	beevul	Apr 2012	#112
Back in the day if there was a dual	rl6214	Apr 2012	#73
Why don't you trudge on over to the grocery store in question...	beevul	Apr 2012	#109
Then they interviewed someone named Hoyt who said	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#110
You too, ask victims if they are glad perp didn't have guns like you.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#113
To whom are you referring as the perp? The guy with the knife or the guy with the gun?	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#115
The guy with a knife- who luckily didn't have a gun or victims would be dead (maybe the hero too).	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#117
Why don't you ask them if they are glad the perp didn't have guns like those you covet?	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#111
What guns do I covet, hoyt?	beevul	Apr 2012	#114
Your post wins Mall Ninja response of the year	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#39
Actually I worked in a store once where a woman -- who slipped out of a psych unit pulled a butcher	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#43
Exactly, you have NEVER faced off with someone trying to kill you	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#45
And what situation have you faced where a gun would have made a difference.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#46
I've never faced off with a knife wielding maniac. If I did, a gun would make a difference	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#53
That "murderous maniac" crud is your problem.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#55
I don't carry, but I'm not going to pretend they are not effective self-defense weapons	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#63
Uh, sure you have...	rl6214	Apr 2012	#74
Well, I've been through a lot -- yet I still can go outside without a gun or imagining all kinds of	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#79
Nah, you just pack your can of pork and beans and your walking stick	rl6214	Apr 2012	#119
Not a walking stick, a staff. Big difference.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#121
maybe you can get a US chapter going	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#122
That is playing - I'm not talking sparring.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#127
You need a special vehicle just to transport that to the mall.	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#132
Reading your posts, we've all been through a lot. nt	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#129
Pledge to leave your guns at home, and l'm gone.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#130
I don't own a gun and I pledge not to carry any	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#147
Ahem!	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#153
As a gun DID stop this attack, it seems "toting" was certainly the answer in this situation.	Marengo	Apr 2012	#49
I've only seen actors in movies carrying staffs in public ...	spin	Apr 2012	#94
And you go to the store with a staff? Do you open carry, or conceal it?	oneshooter	Apr 2012	#157
OK, Gandalf.	HALO141	May 2012	#158
A taser would have worked just as well in this case.	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#84
don't you need a CCW for a Taser?	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#89
No idea, but they are perfect for such situations.	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#92
they were under the same strict	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#95
LOL. Doubt if I'll be taking any weapons anywhere.	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#100
Sword canes are concealed weapons in many juristitions and require a CCL	rl6214	Apr 2012	#133
I know. Isn't it amazing?	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#140
If he had one	Meiko	Apr 2012	#139
Yeah, I know. Makes one wonder doesn't it?	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#141
according to some of the older	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#142
Sorry. I wasn't being serious about sword canes.	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#145
Tasers are good tools	HALO141	May 2012	#159
Is there some reason you feel so vulnerable?	Starboard Tack	May 2012	#160
Personal experience.	HALO141	May 2012	#161
Wow!	Starboard Tack	May 2012	#162
why?	gejohnston	May 2012	#164
They do mean...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#9
It ignores the point and tries to negate it by showing bad people do bad things with guns	Atypical Liberal	Apr 2012	#7
nothing like a game of knife, paper, pistol.	ileus	Apr 2012	#3
Why didn't the knife wielder take the gun	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#4
And all the other Rude Toters	sylvi	Apr 2012	#15
Exactly. I forgot about the circular firing squads that happen every time there is a public DGU.	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#17
Nice to see not all of us democrats are anti-gun nutjobs.	Alphados	Apr 2012	#90
Welcome to DU I saw on another thread where you think Freepers have above average IQs.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#93
Glad it ended with not too many hurt. Glad the crazy guy didn't have some of the guns popular here.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#8
"Of course, someone with a knife can be stopped without a gun."	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#10
I would chip in for the PPV of that. nt	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#28
I started to say that I would pay to see Hoyt back up those words, but	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#30
I don't think...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#36
I would not be killed. I might have to run away, and try something else.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#50
Are you Usain Bolt? If so, I will concede that running away would certainly work.	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#108
Not that...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#35
You say, "someone with a knife can be stopped without a gun" ...	spin	Apr 2012	#14
Of course they can	Meiko	Apr 2012	#22
I bet you've never seen a pissed off Filipina with a butterfly knife	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#27
I've seen a few craziest with a knife in an ER and I've seen Zimmermans.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#29
TV and movies don't count.	Clames	Apr 2012	#33
Yeah, for real.	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#58
Nah.	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#57
I'm looking straight at your eyes when I say that. You just can't	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#60
If you're looking in my eyes, get out of my yard.	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#124
With quite an active imagination	rl6214	Apr 2012	#76
Coming from someone who imagines all kinds of threats, boogiemen, etc. -- requiring a gun.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#77
How can you say that? I have NEVER posted anything like that soooo	rl6214	Apr 2012	#118
Famous last words	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#40
I'm still here and don't have to dress around a gun.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#61
When was the last time you disarmed a determined attacker w/ a knife?	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#64
When have you faced one? Never.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#65
I'm also not the one claiming I could do it with a can of beans	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#66
Since you supposedly don't carry, what are you going to do if you run into a "maniac?"	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#67
"The best form of self defense is to point a gun at a potential attacker,"	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#68
I saw that, and if one is a selfish right winger, it is probably true. I tend to take a broader	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#70
Lol, squirm all you want, guns are effective self-defense weapons	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#75
I did not say "superior" -- but clearly other options are better for society as a whole.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#78
The "other options" are non-sense that only Mall ninjas buy into	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#80
Sure, more Zimmermans and Loughners running around are exactly what we need.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#81
I'm not naive enough to think that taking a gun out of a maniacs hands means they are not dangerous	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#82
A little old lady took Loughner out. I'm heading out to practice throwing cans of beans.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#83
she took him out after	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#86
Right after she watched helplessly as he shot 19 people n/t	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#87
Like you would have pulled out a gun and squeezed off a shot to take Loughner down	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#96
The fact is she was helpless while he shot 19 people, totally helpless	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#99
Like I said, you would not have gotten a shot off -- but dream on. Who knows, someday you might be	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#102
Someone with a gun has a chance, someone with beans watches as 19 innocent people get shot	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#103
Well, there were packers around that day and the only one that got a shot off was Loughner.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#104
"Around", but not in any way close enough to do anything about it	Taitertots	Apr 2012	#105
Packers around where? Oh yeah, he was in the store well away from what was happening	rl6214	Apr 2012	#134
You won't get Hoyt to answer any question. I once asked him what color the sky is	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#107
interesting	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#69
If a can of beans works for a woman, it ought to work for you.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#71
or just pop open a container of	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#85
Nice sexism, there.	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#125
She displayed more guts than most who carry like Zimmerman.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#126
There are no Zimmermans here so you can cut it out	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#128
You would have said Zimmerman was a law-abiding toter, until he shot unarmed teen	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#131
Who?	rl6214	Apr 2012	#136
Bull -- surely you've seen some posts here where right wingers said such things.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#138
Point one out to me,,just one	rl6214	Apr 2012	#156
He won't answer a yes or no question on what color the sky is	shadowrider	May 2012	#163
Never do from that one, just smart alecky nonsense	rl6214	May 2012	#165
I have yet to see anyone thinking he is worthy of an NRA board appointment but	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#137
Until he shot an unarmed teen I didn't know him	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#148
Well, I guess you know the rest of the 14 Million or so toters who the gun culture claims are fine	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#149
You're pretty desperately grasping at straws now	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#152
Every post from here on is going to have zimmerman in it	rl6214	Apr 2012	#135
I think he's obssessed with Zimmerman now	DonP	Apr 2012	#144
Zimmerman is the poster boy for a law-abiding, good guy gun toter -- Gone bad.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#150
what if a jury says you and convetional wisdom are wrong?	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#151
It's very possible a few bigoted gun lovers end up in jury pool.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#154
Are you going to leave or not? I've taken your pledge.	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#155
But people NEVER use knives in mass assaults	rl6214	Apr 2012	#12
This is why we need not only gun control, but knife, fist and feet control as well.	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#18
Wait, you want to take away my "natural fighting ability" too!!! WTF?	cleanhippie	Apr 2012	#21
Yes. I want to take away your independence of thought, too. Bad thoughts are the root of	TPaine7	Apr 2012	#24
Why	Meiko	Apr 2012	#23
Has anyone seen this covered	sarisataka	Apr 2012	#47
I'm sure it's all the rage on Free Republic and Storm Front, along with Zimmerman.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#54
I thought the NRA	sarisataka	Apr 2012	#56
If that happened, even that pos Hannity would say, "dang this gun crap has gone too far. "	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#59
no	Callisto32	Apr 2012	#62
Of course not. The media defends the First Amendment ...	spin	Apr 2012	#91
Proof that not all of us democrats are anti-gun nutjobs.	Alphados	Apr 2012	#88
Nothing excites the pro-gunners like a good DGU story!	DanTex	Apr 2012	#97
And nothing seems to generate more absurdity from the anti CCW crew	Marengo	Apr 2012	#98
But those posts are entertaining from a Hollywood script point of view.	ManiacJoe	Apr 2012	#101
You forgot bicycle wheels and helmets:	friendly_iconoclast	Apr 2012	#143
Nothing excites the pro-restrictionist like the rare GZ/TM story that	Simo 1939_1940	Apr 2012	#116
Dan says, "When you can't be substantive, be insulting."	Straw Man	Apr 2012	#123
Yeah...nothing like a good DGU story...	Clames	Apr 2012	#146

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