Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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46. You want me to cheer those who shoot others?

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:43 PM

Apr 2012

I just think you ought to cheer for the good guys once and a while. You know, the people who stand up to bad guys.

I have "stood up" to a lot of bad guys in my life and put quite a few of them behind bars. I never thought of using a gun to accomplish that.

I don't expect everyone to have the guts to do it but at least have the courtesy to give some props to those who do.

Don't talk to me about guts. It doesn't take guts to shoot someone in the back. Your ideas of right and wrong are myopic and incredibly foolish.

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Is this one self-defense, manslaughter, or murder? [View all] GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 OP

Murder 2 cause he didn't need to shoot the guy because he had the gun. No question about it if it teddy51 Apr 2012 #1

I would not know the charge- digonswine Apr 2012 #2

"unarmed"=/=not a threat PavePusher Apr 2012 #20

I would say it depends on whether the alleged robber was backing away or fleeing petronius Apr 2012 #3

Your right, it would have been a good one. n/t teddy51 Apr 2012 #6

It's not self defense notadmblnd Apr 2012 #4

As currently described, this is most definitely not self defense. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #5

New version of the events in post 61. ManiacJoe May 2012 #67

If he dropped it to surrender to the cop, gejohnston Apr 2012 #7

As described, murder....... wandy Apr 2012 #8

Well... Straw Man Apr 2012 #23

I may have mispoke. If the poliece are on sight....... wandy Apr 2012 #28

Self defense/justifiable elleng Apr 2012 #9

Really? Based on what? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #12

Fear. elleng Apr 2012 #13

If he was walking away, what fear? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #14

I expect there's more to it, but I read elleng Apr 2012 #15

wow, you scare me Logical Apr 2012 #58

This article indicates the dead man was shot in the back Kennah Apr 2012 #10

It also makes no mention of attempted robbery Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #11

Murder one? elleng Apr 2012 #16

Murder 1 often requries less "premeditation" than you may think. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #17

The link I posted claims it was the robber's gun. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #19

Not at all. I'm just confused. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #21

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #18

Shooting people in the back is doing good for society? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #22

This is exactly what I mean when I say I don't have much sympathy for violent criminals. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #24

who has ever asked you to have sympathy for anyone? iverglas Apr 2012 #27

Once again, you leave me speechless. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #29

I'm not surprised - you always take the side of the bad guys. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #30

I agree with you Travis_0004 Apr 2012 #31

strange logic iverglas Apr 2012 #32

why do you say something so completely false? iverglas Apr 2012 #33

Jury System is often... Clames Apr 2012 #51

That is rich coming from you Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #34

Try rooting for the home team once and a while. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #35

You really believe you're going to get away with shooting people in the back? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #37

Maybe, it's happened before. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #40

You want me to cheer those who shoot others? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #46

I want you to cheer when good people triumph over bad people. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #47

Show me one post where I champion criminals. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #48

See, your very wording gives you away. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #50

LOL. Let's look at your wording. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #52

I stopped reading here. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #57

oh, you know! iverglas Apr 2012 #53

You mean I should "root for the home team"? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #55

Update GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #25

Probably not self defense. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #26

Murder. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #36

Hopefully he will have a sympathetic jury. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #38

Why sympathetic? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #39

Only if he is charged with murder hack89 Apr 2012 #41

But he committed murder. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #43

We will see. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #44

Could still be murder if the prosecution can convince a jury of premeditation. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #49

Only because the criminal was a butterfingers or saw the police and ditched his gun and ran. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #42

I cannot excuse a disproportionate response to a hypothetical. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #45

Your sanity is greatly appreciated. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #56

Please view the update video below. Interesting new information. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #62

Legal or not, If I'm on the jury he is going to walk. Taitertots Apr 2012 #54

Wow, you scare me as much as the robber. Logical Apr 2012 #59

Why are you so afraid of me? Taitertots Apr 2012 #60

Update, video from the pregnant victim. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #61

Very interesting new info. Thanks. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #63

But hey, in that micro-second he wasn't a threat anymore! Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #64

This is a completely different account Starboard Tack May 2012 #65

This one is consistent with the others, just more details. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #66

Nonsense. I put no spin on it. Starboard Tack May 2012 #68

Read you own post # 14. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #69

Which was based on this report Starboard Tack May 2012 #70

Why did you choose to believe that one over the OP? GreenStormCloud May 2012 #71

I sided with nobody and still do not. Starboard Tack May 2012 #72

Depends upon when the shot is fired. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #73