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spin

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48. Do you think God protects you while you are in church ...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:28 PM
Apr 2012

or merely that no one would ever shoot up a church?

If so you are definitely wrong. Here's one recent example where a man with a carry permit might have stopped a massacre. If he had not been armed, it is quite possible that buckshot would have been flying around the church.

Sheriff: Concealed Weapon Saves Church From Man Armed With Shotgun
March 26, 2012 3:54 PM

BOILING SPRINGS, S.C. (AP) — A South Carolina sheriff is praising a man with a concealed weapons permit who helped disarm someone who kicked in the door of a church armed with a shotgun.

***snip***

Jesse Gates had already been to the Southside Freewill Baptist Church in Boiling Springs once Sunday morning, so the pastor’s grandson was keeping his eye on the parking lot when he saw Gates come back, this time taking a shotgun out of his trunk, Wright said.

“They locked the door and they were calling 911 at the time. He didn’t draw his weapon or make any move or action toward this gentleman until he kicked the door open and forced the issue,” Wright said.

After Gates kicked in the door, the pistol pointed at him distracted him enough that the pastor was able to grab the shotgun. Members of the church kept him down until deputies arrived, Wright said.
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Changes to gun laws [View all] Meiko Apr 2012 OP
Registration of all handguns. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #1
Did you really mean sarisataka Apr 2012 #2
That is one thing that is almost never reported in handgun crime. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #3
"...there is no way to trace handguns except ones that are newly purchased or from a gun dealer." PavePusher Apr 2012 #8
if caught, extra jail time gejohnston Apr 2012 #5
You don't see massive national databases of private property hack89 Apr 2012 #6
If you own and use a car, truck or airplane safeinOhio Apr 2012 #7
Only if I drive it on public roads hack89 Apr 2012 #10
You'll need a title safeinOhio Apr 2012 #14
or how about gejohnston Apr 2012 #18
No way to enforce the title requirement. hack89 Apr 2012 #20
Some times you can't get one... ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #24
Wrong. Clames Apr 2012 #61
A person can build their own car, truck, airplane, motorcycle, tractor or lawnmower. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #29
You make a lot of sense. As usual. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #41
OK, I'll play. Straw Man Apr 2012 #47
Applys to MA and a couple other states - get rid of the ridiculous approved firearms roster. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #4
And I suppose that works out well..... in Sanford, FL? PavePusher Apr 2012 #9
Yeah, well. That chief has/had his head up his a$$. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #54
county sheriff gejohnston Apr 2012 #60
And that's the problem. No-one's Constitutional Rights should be held at the whim of anyone..... PavePusher Apr 2012 #65
arbitrary authority gejohnston Apr 2012 #11
First we should lose the idea that you have an unlimited right to carry a loaded weapon where ever upaloopa Apr 2012 #12
I guess I'm "a little off" because I arm myself. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #13
I have decided not to engage in meaningless banter back and forth with the gun lobby here. upaloopa Apr 2012 #16
So does crime happen in those places you mentioned? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #17
So you identify with George Zimmerman and those two Deliverance types who pulled assault weapons upaloopa Apr 2012 #21
Oh look, another disciple to the School of Hoyt AH1Apache Apr 2012 #23
You know what a fantasy is? upaloopa Apr 2012 #26
Dear Doctor Freud Remmah2 Apr 2012 #27
What fantasy? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #28
Sometimes a reality check bounces. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #30
Amazing, isn't it? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #31
Probably some lucky guys get picked up in bars by beautiful women and taken home. upaloopa Apr 2012 #33
So what's your point? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #34
Yeah, that's what I think. upaloopa Apr 2012 #39
Who gives a damn what the rest of you feel or think? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #40
Herein lies the problem Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #42
But, respectfully, that's where your right and wrong. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #43
We are brothers in a way. upaloopa Apr 2012 #44
Welcome home brother AH1Apache Apr 2012 #50
Thank you for your service. upaloopa Apr 2012 #69
We should all care. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #45
Words to live by Glaug-Eldare Apr 2012 #46
Thanks Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #49
I can respect that. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #51
Cognitive dissonance. Straw Man Apr 2012 #55
Respect for the protections of the law, while trying to change same n/t Glaug-Eldare Apr 2012 #57
Sorry, I don't buy that. Straw Man Apr 2012 #59
Try this. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #63
Your own analogy is inconsistent. Straw Man Apr 2012 #67
I think I explained my position very well Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #70
Perhaps, but it's still logically inconsistent. Straw Man Apr 2012 #72
You're correct, it's a question of balance. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #73
Yes. Straw Man Apr 2012 #74
Stay safe out there Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #75
Thanks -- you too. Straw Man Apr 2012 #77
You answered your own question. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #62
Yeah, no-one healthy ever goes to bars for that reason. Ever. PavePusher Apr 2012 #38
Do you think God protects you while you are in church ... spin Apr 2012 #48
I'll play. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #15
Great Post. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #19
I'd trade melm00se Apr 2012 #22
Major minimum jail time for violent crime involving firearms. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #25
Maryland needs a lot of work Glaug-Eldare Apr 2012 #32
National Firearms Owner ID. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #35
I could get on board with this as long as it could be guaranteed AH1Apache Apr 2012 #36
I would need stronger incentives before supporting this. NewMoonTherian Apr 2012 #64
I would have to go look it up again. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #76
I don't think 5 years would be all that burdensome. NewMoonTherian Apr 2012 #78
Repeal of the '86 ban on new manufacture of full auto weapons for civilians. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #37
Applause discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #52
It could ruin a few retirements, though... Glaug-Eldare Apr 2012 #53
On investments of all types: discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #56
I'd even go for something a little more narrow. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #66
A fine idea. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #71
If you add removal of suppressors and SBR's from NFA restrictions HALO141 Apr 2012 #68
Off the top of my head... NewMoonTherian Apr 2012 #58
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