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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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181. Actually...

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 05:59 PM

Apr 2012

...I think we've both dismissed each other's point of view. This often happens when common ground is lacking.

Perhaps we agree on something else?

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What crime was Tayvon Martin committing when he was shot and killed by George Zimmerman? [View all] jpak Apr 2012 OP

Honey don't you know? He was committing a BWB- Breathing While Black. Lots of black folks have Ecumenist Apr 2012 #1

+1,000 nt MADem Apr 2012 #4

so why did Trevor Dooley get a $50K bond? gejohnston Apr 2012 #7

I don't where you got the 150.00 cash bond.. it'll be at least 15K Where'd you get Ecumenist Apr 2012 #25

nope gejohnston Apr 2012 #43

THE POINT IS THAT HE WAS CHARGED AND IN THE CASE OF ZIMMY, THERE WAS NO INTENTION TO Ecumenist Apr 2012 #51

the current DA said the investigation was ongoing gejohnston Apr 2012 #66

Trust me GE, it doesn't hurt to be considered white in comparison to that brown skinned Ecumenist Apr 2012 #73

same here gejohnston Apr 2012 #79

Are you Florida? Yes, that law needs ALOT of tweaking. Some idiot in Miami, (I think) caught Ecumenist Apr 2012 #82

My sig line says it all gejohnston Apr 2012 #89

But Meiko Apr 2012 #113

Could you please explain what you mean ? It sounds like you are saying the killing of Trayvon is peacebird Apr 2012 #134

Strawman. Meiko never said Trayvon. You're trying to associate. shadowrider Apr 2012 #139

Not a strawman, it was because Meiko was so vague that I was asking for clarification. This topic peacebird Apr 2012 #142

No problem. It looked though like you were trying to associate. shadowrider Apr 2012 #144

That is true BUT EVEN ACCORDING THE AUTHOR of this law, the "legislature" that voted on it Ecumenist Apr 2012 #154

Apples And Oranges DallasNE Apr 2012 #98

the lack of witnesses who actually gejohnston Apr 2012 #136

10 % of 1500 thousand, marshall gaines Apr 2012 #97

Yes, I know. I had never heard of zimmy having to pay 150.00 cash. I always thought it was Ecumenist Apr 2012 #105

not $150.00 gejohnston Apr 2012 #137

I also supsect that whoever TREVOR DOOLEY is was arrested and and is wending his way through the Ecumenist Apr 2012 #38

I guess a question would then be WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #125

Tell me about it but from my viewpoint, it's the institutionalised bias that rots that area's govern Ecumenist Apr 2012 #150

And I think the PD is a much bigger issue than Zimmerman WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #157

And your guy in the next county got arrested and charged with the crime right? zeemike Apr 2012 #40

ZeeMike, that's the thing these types is that they just will NOT SEE the difference Ecumenist Apr 2012 #60

I'm up in arms that bail was set at $150,000 tavalon Apr 2012 #78

No Meiko Apr 2012 #114

Not imediately gejohnston Apr 2012 #62

Two whole days you say.... zeemike Apr 2012 #122

difference gejohnston Apr 2012 #141

They had his cell phone. zeemike Apr 2012 #159

was the phone intact? gejohnston Apr 2012 #160

And if Zimmerman's father was a contributor you would not? zeemike Apr 2012 #175

first DA, not the current one. gejohnston Apr 2012 #176

No Norman Wolfinger is an old white guy zeemike Apr 2012 #185

I absolutly agree gejohnston Apr 2012 #186

Well we can forget about proving that zeemike Apr 2012 #187

Exactly - African-Americans should not live in fear of random vigilante murder jpak Apr 2012 #9

Best Post! Bryn Apr 2012 #2

you need a dictionary and look the word up gejohnston Apr 2012 #3

Apologist fail - disgusting jpak Apr 2012 #5

I'm not appologizing for anything or anyone gejohnston Apr 2012 #8

Tayvon Martin did nothing to provoke his murder jpak Apr 2012 #13

That must have been terribly traumatic for you sylvi Apr 2012 #16

Tayvon Martin did nothing to provoke his murder - he was kid walking home with a box of candy jpak Apr 2012 #17

I didn't see the murder sylvi Apr 2012 #18

Really - it's OK to kill kids walking home with a box of Skittles? jpak Apr 2012 #19

Why on Earth would you ask a question like that? sylvi Apr 2012 #47

Just the facts ma'am - Trayvon Martin committed no crime jpak Apr 2012 #57

Well, the charging instrument appeared a little thin sylvi Apr 2012 #61

Yeah - a dead black kid is "a little thin" in racist douchebag murdering FL jpak Apr 2012 #93

No, I said the charging instrument is a little thin. sylvi Apr 2012 #101

Trayvon Martin was walking home from a convenience store with candy and a drink jpak Apr 2012 #104

Umm, yeah sylvi Apr 2012 #106

Yeah - killing an innocent unarmed black kid is "a little thin" in racist vigilante FL jpak Apr 2012 #96

What is wrong with you? abelenkpe Apr 2012 #29

Well, I'm a tad overweight sylvi Apr 2012 #52

-- Snort -- shadowrider Apr 2012 #111

You are sick bahrbearian Apr 2012 #33

No, actually I feel pretty good. sylvi Apr 2012 #58

Tell me Sylvi, does that much hate burn? I wouldn't know seeing as I'm not a prejudiced person. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #42

You still there? sylvi Apr 2012 #67

Aww, problem with reading comprehension too, huh? Poor thing. Well, since you aren't able to Ecumenist Apr 2012 #70

I will, thank you! sylvi Apr 2012 #71

I will dear, been here a tad over 7 years.. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #74

Wowsers! That's great. sylvi Apr 2012 #81

Well if we're talking dog years, you should turn 210 next year, if I'm not mistaken... Ecumenist Apr 2012 #85

After reading his posts, AH1Apache Apr 2012 #132

Darlin', never said anything about zimmy having done to him what he did to a 17 YEAR OLD BOY! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #146

#1, don't call me darlin', only my wife gets to call me that AH1Apache Apr 2012 #148

Most people understand what the term means. Zimmy thanks you for support. Hoyt Apr 2012 #12

what term is that? gejohnston Apr 2012 #27

After Katrina, the African-American community of New Orleans was tried and convicted jpak Apr 2012 #34

we agree on something gejohnston Apr 2012 #59

If there was due process , there would have been a murder investigation. bahrbearian Apr 2012 #35

due process is the entire process gejohnston Apr 2012 #55

Watch out. Believing in due process can get you branded as a racist apologist. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #184

I think poobear is going to trial soon enough...time will tell what the result of that trial is. ileus Apr 2012 #6

If he walks, then it is open season on African Americans and everyone else jpak Apr 2012 #10

someone forgot to tell a lot of people gejohnston Apr 2012 #37

REALLY?!! So, California has towns with racist histories just like Sanford Florida? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #44

San Franciso gejohnston Apr 2012 #53

SYG just gives zimmy types legal cover to kill without having to face juris prudence. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #68

most of his problem was gejohnston Apr 2012 #75

When was he in those areas? the reason I ask is because once again, I've never had any issues Ecumenist Apr 2012 #80

that was the mid 1990s. gejohnston Apr 2012 #87

Not been here in a while have you? WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #129

That's unpossible. According to a post at the bottom of this thread, it only happens in the South. shadowrider Apr 2012 #131

Well, it is all "Duck Dynasty" and "Dukes of Hazzard" WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #135

Are you even here in the northern California? If you were, you would know the distance between the Ecumenist Apr 2012 #147

I am WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #152

OF COURSE, I DO. But get this: I live in Sacramento and to the east is Placer county Ecumenist Apr 2012 #155

I didn't say they were not WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #158

Oh yeah, of course but some places are a HELL of alot worse than others. I was saying in the Ecumenist Apr 2012 #178

I haven;t heard of it either WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #179

Exactly, which is why I wanted to ask what he was talking about. It's nice to "meet" someone Ecumenist Apr 2012 #180

Back at you WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #191

Ask any Mexican migrant worker in California. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #151

Migrant workers have been subject to hatred and discrimination and like us, continue to even now but Ecumenist Apr 2012 #174

Does CA have the same SYG law as FL? jpak Apr 2012 #45

CA's is by common law gejohnston Apr 2012 #49

Good thing African American have the right to keep and bear arms so they can protect themselves. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #149

I think the DA will deliberately blow it in jury selection. McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #32

if it is ruled self defense gejohnston Apr 2012 #36

If Zimmerman skates and gets his gun and permit back jpak Apr 2012 #41

he is not gejohnston Apr 2012 #48

He was accused of assaulting LEOs, took an anger management class and skated jpak Apr 2012 #63

accused gejohnston Apr 2012 #72

Allegedly, he was physically assaulting George Zimmerman. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #11

And that's why we need to get guns out of folks' pants on the street. Hoyt Apr 2012 #14

+1000 nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #31

... Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #56

Of course an honest citizen who legally carries never, ever uses his weapon ... spin Apr 2012 #83

You would have called Zimmerman an honest toter right up until he shot Trayvon. Hoyt Apr 2012 #88

I do not know Zimmerman ... spin Apr 2012 #93

Self delete. Duplicate post. spin Apr 2012 #93

Yep, I totally agree tavalon Apr 2012 #84

Stay the hell out of my pants Hoyt. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #133

Yeah. Murder in the second degree is a very serious charge. pa28 Apr 2012 #21

Be careful shadowrider Apr 2012 #112

Assuming Trayvon Martin assaulted George Zimmerman, why? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #24

Amen, JD, could it be that Trayvon WAS STANDING HIS GROUND?? He sure as hell had every right to! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #28

Trayvon was a young black male - you know what they do to white people - right? jpak Apr 2012 #46

Because Zimmerman was stalking and harassing him. Straw Man Apr 2012 #50

I have not been able to think of a reason, a motive that would cause Trayvon JDPriestly Apr 2012 #86

Wait for the trial and facts shadowrider Apr 2012 #115

We do know that Trayvon was crying for help just before Z shot him. Someone crying and pleading for peacebird Apr 2012 #140

We do NOT know Trayvon was crying for help. The "expert" shadowrider Apr 2012 #143

His mom said it was him on the news..... peacebird Apr 2012 #145

You've certainly got that right. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #153

Assaulting or standing his ground? bahrbearian Apr 2012 #39

Zimmerman might claim that Trayvon Martin assaulted him. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #90

If some weirdo jumped out of their car and chased after me, I'd "assault" him too. PSPS Apr 2012 #76

You'd stand your ground? No duty to retreat? Straw Man Apr 2012 #161

"What crime was Tayvon Martin committing when he was shot and killed by George Zimmerman?" ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #15

Um...do you even know what "Necrophilia" is?? Harry Monroe Apr 2012 #20

Yes, probably, and logic wasn't involved. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #30

maybe you got it backwards and tried to make a joke out of it? n/t pa28 Apr 2012 #22

Never frighten a little man. karnac Apr 2012 #23

Crime: he stood his ground without a gun. Makes him a sinner in the eyes of the NRA. McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #26

Not having a gun? Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #54

RAH RAH RAH SIS BOOM BAA! rrneck Apr 2012 #64

Shake those bloody vigilante apologist pom poms jpak Apr 2012 #65

Nice try. rrneck Apr 2012 #69

I don't think I have ever seen or heard Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2012 #77

What did Trayvon Martin do to be murdered? jpak Apr 2012 #92

What I understand is law Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2012 #99

Bullshit - the Law does not allow you to kill kids because they have dark skin jpak Apr 2012 #100

And your rolling over laughing ? Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2012 #102

yup jpak Apr 2012 #103

there you go-should work Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2012 #107

The rolling smiley sylvi Apr 2012 #108

It gets worse Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2012 #109

Your spelling gets worse - and all caps!!!111 jpak Apr 2012 #117

Arguing with Jpak is an exercise in futility. Zimmerman is guilty guilty guilty shadowrider Apr 2012 #119

Zimmerman admitted to killing Trayvon Martin in Court Friday jpak Apr 2012 #120

Does he get a defense? Or would you, personally, kill him for his crime before a trial? shadowrider Apr 2012 #121

What a stupid hate filled post jpak Apr 2012 #123

A simple yes or no will do. shadowrider Apr 2012 #124

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, AH1Apache Apr 2012 #138

right marshall gaines Apr 2012 #165

Starke is no country club gejohnston Apr 2012 #167

yeah marshall gaines Apr 2012 #189

Don't think so gejohnston Apr 2012 #190

Martin 6'2, 160 - Zimmerman (Hispanic) 5'8", 170. Where is this large white man of whom you speak? shadowrider Apr 2012 #169

I lived there, the south, many years. I know what I'm talking about. marshall gaines Apr 2012 #188

I agree shadowrider Apr 2012 #116

yep marshall gaines Apr 2012 #91

Please explain the relevance of this post to the Guns forum slackmaster Apr 2012 #110

A concealed weapon holder racially profiled and killed a black kid then hid behind GOP SYG laws jpak Apr 2012 #118

I agree that what he did was wrong, but you can't have it both ways slackmaster Apr 2012 #126

Minority Self Defense - It Is An Unwritten Crime In The South cantbeserious Apr 2012 #127

More regional bias. shadowrider Apr 2012 #128

Some Grew Up In the South And Understand This Unwritten Rule Very Well cantbeserious Apr 2012 #130

I did. What's your point? shadowrider Apr 2012 #156

My Point Has Been Made - The South Is Unfriendly To Black Men cantbeserious Apr 2012 #162

HAHAHAHAHAHA shadowrider Apr 2012 #164

I Grew Up In The South And Beg To Differ - We Will Have To Agree To Disagree cantbeserious Apr 2012 #166

So did I... Clames Apr 2012 #173

Since We Both Grew Up In the South, If My Opinion Is Baseless, Then So Is Your Opinion cantbeserious Apr 2012 #177

Welcome... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #163

Hmm, Pistol Toting Citizens Are A Felony Simplification - Interesting Thinking On SYG Debate cantbeserious Apr 2012 #168

Hmmm... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #170

We Will Have To Agree To Disagree - Your Argument Is Dismissed! cantbeserious Apr 2012 #171

Actually... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #181

SYG - Does Not Apply To Black Women In Florida - See DU Link Below cantbeserious Apr 2012 #182

I agree that is fucked up gejohnston Apr 2012 #183

jpak - You Hit The Nail On The Head - The Criminal Is Mr. Zimmerman! cantbeserious Apr 2012 #172