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In the discussion thread: DEMOCRATIC PARTY PLATFORM 2008 ON GUN CONTROL [View all]

Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:30 AM

mvccd1000 (1,534 posts)

4. Improvements needed for 2012

There is no "gun show loophole." They sound like fools for parroting that line. Gun show sales by non-federal firearms license holders are subject to exactly the same restrictions as sales are subject to in the newspaper classifieds, at a shooting range, or when you meet someone out hunting. In other words, gun shows sales work exactly like non-gun show sales. There is no "loophole" when you walk into a gun show.

While I would not be adverse to some improvements in private sales (I'd certainly be happy to know the person I'm selling to isn't currently wanted for aggravated assault or some such charge), the ability to use things like the NCIS does not exist for private sellers.

The party would get a lot further with these things if they actually used truth and facts in creating the platform.

BTW, I'd love to hear how reinstating the assault weapons ban would keep guns from falling into the hands of terrorists and criminals.

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57 replies	Author	Time	Post
DEMOCRATIC PARTY PLATFORM 2008 ON GUN CONTROL [View all]	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	OP
that wasn't in the 2012 platform	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#1
Huh?	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#2
it was pulled	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#10
Talking about 2008 Democratic Platform on Firearms	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#11
Not bad	sarisataka	Apr 2012	#3
Improvements needed for 2012	mvccd1000	Apr 2012	#4
no no..it's magic...no gunshow loophole no illegal guns	ileus	Apr 2012	#6
private sales are a gunshow loophole.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#12
stupid question	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#13
I think that sometimes the numbers are removed somehow.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#20
they show it on TV	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#22
Hint, criminals don't buy from federally licensed dealers.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#25
You're telling me. We had a gun stolen. In fact, if I go back	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#32
It's a laudable goal to remove as many guns from as many prohibited persons as possible.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#33
I see two weaknesses in your argument.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#34
According to DOJ studies, criminals get their guns from..	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#35
This is a lousy response.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#41
Actually, our crime rate is at 1968 levels.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#43
But the police....	WinniSkipper	Apr 2012	#56
So	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#7
correct...	ileus	Apr 2012	#17
Incorrect	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#54
Yes	mvccd1000	Apr 2012	#50
Here's a study chart of the sales of ar-15 type weapons..	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#55
Yes.	mvccd1000	Apr 2012	#51
The Sequence of Your Events	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#53
gun show loophole and common sense again...	ileus	Apr 2012	#5
Sounds like someone found the NRA teat between 04 and 08	Doctor_J	Apr 2012	#8
No	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#9
That could be improved, here's my rough draft:	petronius	Apr 2012	#14
Good Luck with that	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#15
sure if you want to toss the Constitution right the fuck out the window.....	bowens43	Apr 2012	#16
name one constitutional scholar that agrees with you	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#18
ONCE AGAIN	AH1Apache	Apr 2012	#19
"the right of the people" -- not the state, not the militias, not the government.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#26
I haven't seen any	Meiko	Apr 2012	#21
weak, elderly female here who does NOT own a gun, never will. hate them.	northoftheborder	Apr 2012	#23
Bravo	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#24
I grew up with guns too	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#27
Fearful males and females?	AH1Apache	Apr 2012	#28
you're one of those baser gunner rude types aren't you.	ileus	Apr 2012	#30
Yes I am	AH1Apache	Apr 2012	#31
Fear	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#36
And you know this how?	AH1Apache	Apr 2012	#38
Pure fun is the third valid option	hack89	Apr 2012	#57
4 ND's indicates additional training required.	ileus	Apr 2012	#29
Nah	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#37
I've owned guns for 30 years.	Atypical Liberal	Apr 2012	#40
OT but: Please, don't kill snakes if you can help it.	beevul	Apr 2012	#52
How is this believable?	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#39
Ask the Majority of Delegates	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#42
In a Democratic society...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#44
Uhummmmmmm	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#45
Silly me...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#46
Right	fightthegoodfightnow	Apr 2012	#47
Thought about becoming a national delegate?	derby378	Apr 2012	#48
Sounds nice...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#49

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