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Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
75. I'm for gun rights, but the NRA sucks
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 11:16 AM
Apr 2012

People keep urging me to rejoin NRA, people say I'm letting the cause down if I don't, people repost NRA scare tactics... Thing is, NRA isn't even about guns. It's essentially a GOP organ that uses gun issues to frighten the easily-propagandized. Basically, the idea is to tell Americans that "THE DEMMYCRATS ARE COMIN' FER YER GUNS! DONATE NOW!" and just wait for the cash to flood in. Then they tell us that "OBAMA WANTS TO BAN SINGLE-SHOT .22S!" and pray that we'll all scream and run around with chickens with our dicks cut off, and pull the lever for Romney or whoever their GOP friend is. Their real efforts to protect our civil rights are lackluster, and only now are they getting humiliated by SAF and the state groups. Hell, I got a nice letter from NRA the other day begging me to start giving them money for nothing again, and it said "NRA is the ONLY grass-roots organization fighting for your right to keep and bear arms."

Here's my reply to that particular lie:

"Please stop sending me renewal requests. I let my membership lapse for a reason, and I am not interested in being lied to by your organization. Your latest plea for cash states that:

"NRA is the ONLY grass-roots organization fighting for your right to keep and bear arms."

This is a dirty lie, and I think even less of your organization for trying to sell it to me. NRA is neither grass-roots, nor is it fighting for our rights in Maryland.

Maryland Shall Issue is grass-roots, and NRA has specifically informed us that "[NRA] does not work with grass-roots organizations."

The Second Amendment Foundation is fighting for our rights, and NRA is only recently joining the lawsuit scene to avoid humiliation.

NRA is nothing but a top-heavy GOP organ designed to use Second Amendment issues to frighten voters into handing over money.

I've received numerous alerts from Maryland Shall Issue informing me of bad legislation and upcoming committee hearings, of the status of the Woollard case and how to help, of demonstrations and events I could (and have) participated in, etc.

I've read the docket in Woollard v. Maryland, and the efforts and victories of the Second Amendment Foundation are significant and public. They directly impact Marylanders and advance gun rights for the Americans NRA can't be bothered to fight for.

NRA just wants money.

You're ants, and you're going to be swept away by TRUE grass-roots groups committed to more than depositing checks.

Again, stop sending me mail."

Yes, it was locked in GD. MineralMan Apr 2012 #1
Is this also the correct place for the dozens of threads in GD bashing the NRA, Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #2
The actions and reactions are a barometer of how the debate is going. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #4
I'd have to look at each thread. MineralMan Apr 2012 #7
Trust me, there have been plenty of threads in GD bashing the NRA and gun ownership Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #8
The ones I saw had sufficient political content to make them suitable MineralMan Apr 2012 #9
What about these? Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #11
I don't know about those, nor am I going to go look at them. MineralMan Apr 2012 #14
I'm willing to grant that my OP may belong here. As you said, it's a fine line. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #15
Why would I look at those? I'm not a host in GD any more. MineralMan Apr 2012 #16
"BTW, I'm not a gun grabber. I own several firearms, both recent and antique. " rl6214 Apr 2012 #21
I'm not really interested in what others post. MineralMan Apr 2012 #24
I must admit to being very amused by the term "Fudd" to describe Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #26
The NRA should be bashed. Not guns, but the NRA! Logical Apr 2012 #77
Almost any thread in GD about the NRA inevitably lead to talk of "gun nuts", etc. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #79
I have alerted the "gun nut" posts but the jury never seems to mind..... Logical Apr 2012 #80
No big surprise in the poll ... spin Apr 2012 #3
somebody looks at you funny, blast em. that's common sense? nt msongs Apr 2012 #6
No. I will also point out that commonsense is not believing everything the media tells you ... spin Apr 2012 #17
Only in the anti-gun zealot mind. rl6214 Apr 2012 #22
You weren't surprised majority oppose guns in churches, workplace, stores? Hoyt Apr 2012 #34
To be honest, I missed the link to the poll in the OP ... spin Apr 2012 #38
I get. Parts the pro-gun OP chose are good with you. The rest, which is against guns everywhere Hoyt Apr 2012 #67
I would like to see the same information reported about answers to questions ... spin Apr 2012 #74
Poll shows most do. So play with your guns a home out of deference to society. Just because laws Hoyt Apr 2012 #82
I may not be a "decent" person in your opinion because I have a carry permit ... spin Apr 2012 #85
churches should be no different than stores or workplaces gejohnston Apr 2012 #41
Correct -- guns should be banned in churches, stores, workplace, bars, parks, etc. Hoyt Apr 2012 #68
nope. gejohnston Apr 2012 #69
You think favorable view of the NRA is "commonsense"? They are extremely right wing and liars. Logical Apr 2012 #78
if true, most americans are idiots.......so what else is new? bowens43 Apr 2012 #5
see post 13 gejohnston Apr 2012 #18
Are you suggesting that most Americans are idiots because they support the right ... spin Apr 2012 #19
Just because they don't agree with you they are "idiots". rl6214 Apr 2012 #23
Most Americans support the death penalty too. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #10
Name one American rrneck Apr 2012 #12
most Americans did not elect Dubya gejohnston Apr 2012 #13
I was talking about 2004. I said re-elected. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #28
re elected implies gejohnston Apr 2012 #39
Ah, so you don't always agree with the holy SCOTUS Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #53
Do You? gejohnston Apr 2012 #56
I often disagree with SCOTUS Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #58
same here gejohnston Apr 2012 #65
Almost hate to point it out, but... ToolMaker Apr 2012 #63
true, but I was talking about those who voted gejohnston Apr 2012 #70
I understand... ToolMaker Apr 2012 #72
So glad you aren't living here with "most Americans", or are you? rl6214 Apr 2012 #25
Nice one r2d2. More right wing drivel. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #29
R2D2 rl6214 Apr 2012 #37
I use it as a term of endearment to those who pose as robots. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #52
Most Europeans... Clames Apr 2012 #73
It's gun related by a pro-gun person posting it, of course it's going to be locked rl6214 Apr 2012 #20
If you can't say something nice. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #27
Interestingly, respondents support tough laws, strong regulation, and no guns in churches/stores. Hoyt Apr 2012 #30
Let's look at the poll a little closer. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #31
+100 MineralMan Apr 2012 #32
It also makes you wonder, ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #33
Exactly. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #44
I doubt it gejohnston Apr 2012 #45
They would have nothing to do with gun laws if... Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #57
the gun law CCW allows carrying outside the home gejohnston Apr 2012 #61
I have little problem with SYG if guns are not involved. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #66
I fail to see why it matters gejohnston Apr 2012 #71
What do you mean by "the most effective means possible"? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #76
inside the home, brandishing is not a crime gejohnston Apr 2012 #81
No problem with any of that Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #83
some Earl Grey while waiting for the cops gejohnston Apr 2012 #86
I think the answer is to make the public aware of what is really going on. Hoyt Apr 2012 #35
I think it's starting to happen. Hopefully. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #50
Zimmerman is not the poster boy for anything gejohnston Apr 2012 #54
You're right - Zimmerman is a law-abiding gun carrier Hoyt Apr 2012 #59
I didn't say he was gejohnston Apr 2012 #64
You really believe he's the average gun owner, don't you? n/t Glaug-Eldare Apr 2012 #84
Allow me... ellisonz Apr 2012 #60
I doubt that means much to the Egyptian swimming team. LOL Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #62
Frightening, especially living in Florida now HockeyMom Apr 2012 #36
What exactly is a "George Zimmerman?" Callisto32 Apr 2012 #40
Redneck Macho Men HockeyMom Apr 2012 #42
so why hasn't he been convicted of gejohnston Apr 2012 #43
She dropped the charges HockeyMom Apr 2012 #46
I'm a strong believer in gejohnston Apr 2012 #51
What is a "George Zimmerman"? Easy question. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #48
Do you have x-ray vision? spin Apr 2012 #55
Be kinda dumb not supporting the right to use deadly force to save yourself and family. ileus Apr 2012 #47
Correct. As an absolute last resort. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #49
I'm for gun rights, but the NRA sucks Glaug-Eldare Apr 2012 #75
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