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ellisonz

(27,709 posts)
42. "It is both a fraction of a second and several minutes."
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:24 PM
Apr 2012


I'm glad to hear of your fear of lizard brain.
At that point with 3 of them invading my home I'd shoot, too, and I'm a bleedingheartliberal. blm Apr 2012 #1
I'm with you, with three of them there going to get shot. n/t teddy51 Apr 2012 #2
I probably would too if armed, but I surely would not be celebrating... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #3
no celebration here, either...it would be disbelief and sorrow mixed with blm Apr 2012 #4
I agree gejohnston Apr 2012 #5
They would hear one word... sarisataka Apr 2012 #10
Do you understand how fast a heartbeat is? ellisonz Apr 2012 #11
In a life and death situation sarisataka Apr 2012 #40
"It is both a fraction of a second and several minutes." ellisonz Apr 2012 #42
I take it sarisataka Apr 2012 #44
And you would be wrong... ellisonz Apr 2012 #45
I'm not sarisataka Apr 2012 #49
May I suggest that you read this month's Scientific American? GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #80
How do we know it wasn't the "lizard brain" in the first place? ellisonz Apr 2012 #91
Read the article. Educate yourself about the real world. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #94
Oh I will... ellisonz Apr 2012 #95
That is the issue but not the article. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #96
I would need a subscription to read the full article... ellisonz Apr 2012 #98
The article goes into all of that. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #99
There is a book on the precise topic. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #103
I'm sure there is... ellisonz Apr 2012 #107
Don't use the word "precise" unless you wrote that book! DocMac Apr 2012 #118
Some of the answers sarisataka Apr 2012 #104
"a tool to look for warning signs of those pre-dispossessed to become criminals" ellisonz Apr 2012 #111
You missed the point sarisataka Apr 2012 #113
Hey you said it... ellisonz Apr 2012 #140
they are just as much of a criminal gejohnston Apr 2012 #142
So why do we invest so much sarisataka Apr 2012 #151
The problem is your model of criminality... ellisonz Apr 2012 #152
Not really changing sarisataka Apr 2012 #155
How do you objectively determine someone is psychotic without prior evidence of instability? n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #158
not possible sarisataka Apr 2012 #160
So you ignore the empirical evidence because it doesn't comport shit people made up? Callisto32 Apr 2012 #121
I don't think you understand what empircal evidence is conceptually. ellisonz Apr 2012 #139
So if I follow you correctly... sarisataka Apr 2012 #153
Depends on the specific context... ellisonz Apr 2012 #156
Eureka! sarisataka Apr 2012 #162
Indeed, and when someone makes the deliberate decision to break into someone's domicile, Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #165
Breaking into an occupied dwelling sylvi Apr 2012 #76
If you shoot them before they can respond or leave... ellisonz Apr 2012 #78
You're the one who brought up how long it takes to comprehend a word sylvi Apr 2012 #136
I'm sorry, but I'd like to see you test your own theory on yourself in this matter. n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #138
That could be smack out of a Monty Python movie. Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #166
You do understand he said "heartbeats"? rl6214 Apr 2012 #168
Are you saying that the 14 yr. old fired a shot? nt DocMac Apr 2012 #64
No sarisataka Apr 2012 #66
His classmates fired shots? nt DocMac Apr 2012 #67
The poster switched subjects in the middle of the post. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #81
Yes, it's sad. DocMac Apr 2012 #84
Probably staring with sick fascination at the body on the floor. krispos42 Apr 2012 #135
Likewise. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #145
I would probably defend my homefront by giving plenty of warning. But I'd be sure damn mad if I southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #6
Who commits crimes like this at 11am? DocMac Apr 2012 #7
Prime time for burglary here is about 10:30 AM Warpy Apr 2012 #8
Really? DocMac Apr 2012 #18
Please study up on shooting in self-defense. PavePusher Apr 2012 #54
Yes, because a shot to the chest is a minor wound. DocMac Apr 2012 #62
Please read all my comments to you, look up the recommended reference... PavePusher Apr 2012 #65
And you are what? A police officer? A lawyer? DocMac Apr 2012 #97
I suggest that you educate yourself on current laws and training. PavePusher Apr 2012 #110
Do you think that this person DocMac Apr 2012 #114
Both of those will quite handily shoot through a common house door.... PavePusher Apr 2012 #126
You don't shoot to "wound" the intruder, you shoot to stop them rl6214 Apr 2012 #171
Not only that, but they love to steal guns Warpy Apr 2012 #88
Actually, I chased the last little bastards who tried it here. Warpy Apr 2012 #87
With poor eyesight, DocMac Apr 2012 #90
Nothing makes me the arbiter... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #9
Was the home owner fired on? DocMac Apr 2012 #13
There are very few people... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #27
A leg wound can be more lethal than a shot to center body mass... spin Apr 2012 #30
The phrase you are missing is "disparity of force". PavePusher Apr 2012 #55
DocMac, the shooting as described would be a lawful use of Castle Doctrine even in California slackmaster Apr 2012 #133
You should know that I don't care! DocMac Apr 2012 #215
Neither you nor the homeowner had any knowledge that the kid just wanted his stuff slackmaster Apr 2012 #218
Shooting somebody in the leg is just stupid. Travis_0004 Apr 2012 #12
Oh, please!! DocMac Apr 2012 #15
They probably were not going to kill anybody Travis_0004 Apr 2012 #19
My point is that a warning shot would have DocMac Apr 2012 #22
Warning shots are illegal in most jurisdictions. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #37
Not when you're in your house. DocMac Apr 2012 #116
While I would not necessarily hold up Texas as a shining example, ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #146
Sometimes there may not be time for warning shots Travis_0004 Apr 2012 #52
Well, they are kids and you're not. DocMac Apr 2012 #92
The bullets have to go somewhere. Angleae Apr 2012 #85
When a group kicks in the door, you DON'T KNOW what they intend. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #34
you are soooo right! If it isn't on Huffpo then it didn't happen! oneshooter Apr 2012 #147
I've heard more than once Speck Tater Apr 2012 #17
That officers advice is what will land you in jail. PavePusher Apr 2012 #57
It's all academic. I don't have a gun, and never will have a gun. Ever. nt Speck Tater Apr 2012 #102
Not purely academic, it's a very practical subject worthy of some study. PavePusher Apr 2012 #112
I bet that's total bull crap. I can't think of even one story chrisa Apr 2012 #213
You may be right. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #214
Shooting to wound will get you convicted Lurks Often Apr 2012 #20
I disagree. DocMac Apr 2012 #25
Really? Angus86 Apr 2012 #29
Maybe you are comfortable in your skin? DocMac Apr 2012 #33
You can do whatever you want, of course Angus86 Apr 2012 #39
I'll be just fine. DocMac Apr 2012 #82
Please do some research on the subject. PavePusher Apr 2012 #58
So, why the name? Is that a Muslim name? DocMac Apr 2012 #79
He is one of the most respected teachers of armed self-defense. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #83
You forgot to add sarisataka Apr 2012 #100
True. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #101
"Lethal Force Institute" ellisonz Apr 2012 #141
Truth in advertising. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #143
Lots of agenda there. Just not yours. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #144
So why isn't it the "Self-Defense Institute" ellisonz Apr 2012 #149
My guess is that it is because they specialize in lethal self defense. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #154
So it's mostly about guns? n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #157
He is the summary of course LFI 1 sarisataka Apr 2012 #164
I have never met... sarisataka Apr 2012 #163
That would seem to be a good description. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #169
U.S. Marine Corps. Same idea. Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #167
This slipped by me before.... sarisataka Apr 2012 #131
Oh FFS... PavePusher Apr 2012 #134
"is that a muslim name? Is this your point?" rl6214 Apr 2012 #172
It is an Arabic name gejohnston Apr 2012 #173
Femoral atery, tibial artery, brachial artery. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #124
You are free to disagree Lurks Often Apr 2012 #130
Why not warning shots? sarisataka Apr 2012 #24
You have that Eagle , Globe and anchor. DocMac Apr 2012 #26
The homeowner DID tell them he was armed. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #31
I'll let a court decide that! nt DocMac Apr 2012 #35
You know the laws in Texas! DocMac Apr 2012 #75
My life would not be in danger is I am inside and they are outside. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #86
Hey. The homeowners did what they had to. DocMac Apr 2012 #119
If you are 103% sure the doorframe will stop that round... sarisataka Apr 2012 #43
Well, i'm not sure how this scenario DocMac Apr 2012 #46
Fair enough sarisataka Apr 2012 #50
I see that. DocMac Apr 2012 #77
If three teens were able to kick in the door, any handgun, rifle or shotgun would blow right through PavePusher Apr 2012 #127
"very young kids" can be quite lethal to adults, especially at three-on-one odds. PavePusher Apr 2012 #60
Adults can be lethal to kids as well. DocMac Apr 2012 #70
You certainly shouldn't... PavePusher Apr 2012 #109
"But I would have shot the first one through the door." PavePusher Apr 2012 #61
Did the article say it was a .308 or a shotgun? DocMac Apr 2012 #68
article didn't say either one gejohnston Apr 2012 #71
Then why are people assuming that the round will go next door? DocMac Apr 2012 #72
ask them gejohnston Apr 2012 #73
See Post # 126. PavePusher Apr 2012 #129
I know. But it's important. nt DocMac Apr 2012 #117
And you've now proven an ignorance of the ballistical properties of most firearms. PavePusher Apr 2012 #106
Why? Did the article give you an exclusive? DocMac Apr 2012 #115
AAAAAhahahahahahahah, I can't win so I'm going to ignore you, lalalalalalalalalalala rl6214 Apr 2012 #174
Oh my God. Union Scribe Apr 2012 #93
11am is a great time to do this type of crime ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #36
Girl scouts sell cookies during those hours too. DocMac Apr 2012 #120
Girl Scouts do not kick in doors, but you knew that already. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #148
No. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #123
That's the way it goes somedays. ileus Apr 2012 #14
I don't like guns. I don't have a gun. I've posted here often with my anti-gun position... But... Speck Tater Apr 2012 #16
Why not fire a round into the back door while DocMac Apr 2012 #21
Why not? Angus86 Apr 2012 #41
How were your ever a Marine? Clames Apr 2012 #47
I served in the Marine Corp. DocMac Apr 2012 #51
No...it isn't bullshit. Clames Apr 2012 #53
I have not forgotten my training. DocMac Apr 2012 #59
It may be that is how you were trained... 30+ years ago. PavePusher Apr 2012 #63
Don't like the truth... Clames Apr 2012 #69
I have no problem with the ignore. DocMac Apr 2012 #74
I was a Marine as well, and "shooting to wound" was never part of my training... Marengo Apr 2012 #216
if the army isn't gejohnston Apr 2012 #56
Where is that bullet going to land? hack89 Apr 2012 #122
He obviously... Clames Apr 2012 #125
Maybe all I would need would be a track and field starter's pistol Speck Tater Apr 2012 #48
NEVER use a gun to bluff with. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #89
You're probably right. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #105
Or you could, as a poster once suggested, use your "natural fighting ability" oneshooter Apr 2012 #150
Ha! Speck Tater Apr 2012 #159
"Natual fighting ability" is a kind of inside joke. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #170
"Why not fire a round into the back door while they are trying to get in?" rl6214 Apr 2012 #175
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They brought themselves to do this SATIRical Apr 2012 #137
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So your contention is that SATIRical Apr 2012 #176
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Why choose you? SATIRical Apr 2012 #178
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????? SATIRical Apr 2012 #180
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Evil SATIRical Apr 2012 #182
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You know there is an ignore function, right? SATIRical Apr 2012 #184
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I don't care about you as a person SATIRical Apr 2012 #186
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I'm optimistic SATIRical Apr 2012 #188
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mites grow on chicken's butts. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #190
There you go. SATIRical Apr 2012 #191
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You just can't control yourself can you? SATIRical Apr 2012 #193
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So now the ultimate question SATIRical Apr 2012 #195
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I wouldn't delight SATIRical Apr 2012 #198
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Um, no SATIRical Apr 2012 #204
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Take a deep breath SATIRical Apr 2012 #207
you have said freeperish shit. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #209
So, if I understand this right SATIRical Apr 2012 #210
are you a registered Democrat? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #211
Sorry, I don't play the SATIRical Apr 2012 #212
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Maggots are not sexually mature SATIRical Apr 2012 #199
duh. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #201
This is being reported by My Fox in Texas. I wonder how they reported Travon Martin's murder. nt Walk away Apr 2012 #28
Also being reported by NBC, CBS, CNN, etc. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #32
To little information to make a judgement on this case. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #38
Information? We don't need no stinking information! Speck Tater Apr 2012 #108
My take on this is simple AH1Apache Apr 2012 #128
Life of crime cut short by a gunner baser zimmerman wannabe. ileus Apr 2012 #217
Tragic waste of a young life slackmaster Apr 2012 #132
"can get you shot in ANY state" - YUP! Tejas Apr 2012 #208
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