Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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118. the thing I find perplexing

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:17 PM

Apr 2012

I never understood the gender stereotype thing. Where I grew up, girls and women go hunting, shoot guns, did ranch work, etc. Men also cook. Those of us who grew up in single parent families were taught gun stuff by our mothers. Allen West would never get elected there. Maybe it is just an intermountain west thing.

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Why is it so hard... [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 OP

because, as a woman, lots of decades on this planet seabeyond Apr 2012 #1

I can relate to both of you gejohnston Apr 2012 #3

I congratulate you. I, personally, have never needed a fire extinguisher. TheWraith Apr 2012 #5

a fire extinguisher is not a gun. just to put it simply seabeyond Apr 2012 #6

must be nice to have a husband who handles all that for you. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #16

those are choices we make. as i said, i lived a lot of years by myself. seabeyond Apr 2012 #19

that is fine for you. you are a part of a WE but, to deny that YOU have no need for a gun Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #30

wow. lol. so, are you suggesting i insist my hubby get rid of guns or i walk? seabeyond Apr 2012 #33

I really don't give a shit what you and your husband do. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #43

How dare you tell people how they can come in here. WingDinger Apr 2012 #53

Ya know, you might have had a perfectly valid point... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #102

please see my post #108 to seabeyond in this thread. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #109

Whining? No, I am settling things like adults. The peer group, is just as important as JURY. WingDinger Apr 2012 #124

well, that is good to know that you think that way. seems a lot around here don't. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #127

you really have no idea how snarky was your own thought process. I respect you being honest Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #18

omg.... because i have never felt the need for a gun, and expressed why others may feel as i, seabeyond Apr 2012 #20

I am just trying to get you to realize that part of your NOT needing a gun is the fact that Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #32

i do NOT want them. they have NEVER been used. i went over a decade living by myself without them seabeyond Apr 2012 #35

you don't want them and yet you have them in YOUR home. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #39

Not snark, an analogy. PavePusher Apr 2012 #84

No snark there rl6214 Apr 2012 #86

This is where the conversation gets interesting. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #10

we play the odds in ALL things. yes, the odds are so very low, that i will continue seabeyond Apr 2012 #14

I am sure you and your husband have reduced your odds for being violated in your home. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #21

again... you are ignoring the decade and a half that i lived on my own. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #28

when you were young, Yes, I got that and addressed it. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #34

reno nevada and calif. IF i had chosen to live somewhere seabeyond Apr 2012 #40

yes, I know your mind set Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #42

that is bullshit. i walk tomorrow and i would not have a gun in my house. seabeyond Apr 2012 #44

yes. just forget it. You don't get it and you never will. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #46

ok. i guess what you are saying is if a woman is married, she does not get to have an opinion seabeyond Apr 2012 #50

Actually, I am trying to articulate a philosophy that has been on my mind for a while now and, Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #108

gosh... and thank you so much tuesday seabeyond Apr 2012 #111

I see what you are saying but, Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #112

i kinda get what you are saying in this post and find it more interesting than the OP seabeyond Apr 2012 #114

I have been trying to make a cohesive statement and a cogent OP for the Feminist group Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #117

the thing I find perplexing gejohnston Apr 2012 #118

my mom grew up in the midwest. spent a lot of time hunting with an uncle seabeyond Apr 2012 #121

and btw.... the 18 yrs we have been married, he has never needed the gun, either. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #29

BUT>>>he HAS ONE or maybe more. does he not? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #36

I find that interesting Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #13

yes... here in texas seabeyond Apr 2012 #17

EXCELLENT POINT fightthegoodfightnow Apr 2012 #128

re: "he is responsible. it is his to do. i respect that." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #55

I'm about as liberal as it gets... SteveABG Apr 2012 #2

The problem is not everyone can distinguish between movonne Apr 2012 #11

And those who feel they have a problem... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #66

Well there is a good idea. Perhaps only people trained and certified should be permitted to Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #91

And more broad-brush generalizations... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #100

google shall issue. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #104

shall issue gejohnston Apr 2012 #107

re: "Perhaps only people trained and certified should be permitted to carry... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #132

Ideology. rrneck Apr 2012 #4

Still locked into that "emotional anti gun" meme. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #24

yes. the emotional thing on both sides disgusts me. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #38

Socialism is an economic system rrneck Apr 2012 #45

"The bulk of consumer demand including politics is emotionally driven." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #56

Did I say Socialism? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #62

Didn't KGO have have gejohnston Apr 2012 #68

Socialism is a socialist ideology. rrneck Apr 2012 #73

Ah, back in one of your foul moods I see Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #103

Petty bullshit always puts me in a foul mood. rrneck Apr 2012 #105

You must only read your own posts Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #106

Why do you think rrneck Apr 2012 #110

Thanks for an excellent question and here is my simple answer. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #120

Nope. rrneck Apr 2012 #123

I don't know why you say "nope", as we agree on most of it. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #125

Disagree on a couple of things gejohnston Apr 2012 #126

I keep saying "nope" because we disagree. rrneck Apr 2012 #129

Not quite sure what you mean by "emotional embroidery" Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #130

The preference you show rrneck Apr 2012 #131

yes Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #25

I agree with seabeyond, that many people can't fathom being in a situation where it's needed. gateley Apr 2012 #7

Pepper spray might work for you or someone like you ... spin Apr 2012 #22

That is a good option (and suggestion). Unfortunately, it's not good enough for most into guns. Hoyt Apr 2012 #27

Your brush is too broad. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #48

Do you carry that instead of a gun? Any other gun guys wish to speak up? Hoyt Apr 2012 #52

Not instead of, but in addition to. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #54

^^ Callisto32 Apr 2012 #95

I carry a kimber pepper blaster where my EDC isn't allowed. ileus Apr 2012 #60

I carry both ... spin Apr 2012 #49

Ditto n/t X_Digger Apr 2012 #57

Good post... rl6214 Apr 2012 #87

Really? Callisto32 Apr 2012 #94

That's very thoughtful of you, thanks! I like the idea of a strobe and alarm a LOT! gateley Apr 2012 #74

Absolutely! discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #77

People who practice "situational awareness" ... spin Apr 2012 #80

Yes -- I took a class when I was thinking about getting a gun after this incident, and gateley Apr 2012 #99

That sounds like a very upsetting experience. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #58

I have no problem with people (responsible, non-Zimmerman people) carrying guns. I just gateley Apr 2012 #76

Bravo! discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #79

The very next day I called the police and asked "how do I get a gun, and where can I learn to use it gateley Apr 2012 #98

A bit of a straw man- digonswine Apr 2012 #8

Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #59

Defense in your own home Politicalboi Apr 2012 #9

I like the way you put it...I agree with everything you said... movonne Apr 2012 #12

Thanks Politicalboi Apr 2012 #15

+A bunch. Hoyt Apr 2012 #26

For some reason many people can't seem to believe that bad things happen in churches ... spin Apr 2012 #47

one point gejohnston Apr 2012 #51

Point taken discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #61

Let's put those restrictions on the LEO's first, eh? Callisto32 Apr 2012 #96

"Unless we have nukes or tanks in our yards, that reason is moot." eqfan592 Apr 2012 #101

Sure it's valid for SD in a small percentage of situations. But why arm millions of citizens on the Hoyt Apr 2012 #23

Yup Politicalboi Apr 2012 #37

re: "I think most who carry are just Zimmermans waiting for the "perfect storm."" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #63

Most would have said same about Zimmerman before he murdered unarmed teenager. Hoyt Apr 2012 #67

"...you guys never consider..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #69

But, you admit all aren't. Again Zimmy seemed responsible too Hoyt Apr 2012 #70

I can only talk about the folks I know. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #71

The key point is your friends may be the gods of carriers, but all are not. Hoyt Apr 2012 #72

re: "...your friends may be the gods of carriers, but all are not." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #75

Zimmerman being a recent example. Lougher too. Hoyt Apr 2012 #78

I don't think Loughner... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #81

He was legal until he started shooting people in the head. Hoyt Apr 2012 #82

He was permitted to legally make the purchase. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #113

Loughner didn't have a concealed carry license rl6214 Apr 2012 #90

couldn't leave home without a machete or two strapped to your body? rl6214 Apr 2012 #89

All I want to know is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #115

Pretty broad brush again for your normal, baseless accusations. rl6214 Apr 2012 #88

Data show you are wrong. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #97

Great post. Looks like you're getting some sound replies. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #31

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #64

because some believe they're only lethal weapons carried by hidden criminals. ileus Apr 2012 #41

It is truly sad that some feel that way. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #65

I can think of a couple of reasons Kali Apr 2012 #83

re: "being taught to fear guns" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #116

Because they have no concept of right and wrong and just want to coddle the criminal rl6214 Apr 2012 #85

Damn liberals. Bleeding hearts. Brie and Chardonnay Volvo drivers. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #92

I drink Merlot gejohnston Apr 2012 #119

Someone with good taste ;) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #122

Really? Or you left off the sarcasm tag? Logical Apr 2012 #93