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"Good for the store owner!" Maybe, except that a major can of worms has now been opened. teddy51 Apr 2012 #1
Oh please. They've been saying that for decades. It's still not true. TheWraith Apr 2012 #4
Uhhh davidthegnome Apr 2012 #7
It may have been "legally justified", but morally justified to kill a 16 yo WIthOUT REGRET? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #10
"I know the police does not teach non-lethal wounding shots in most jurisdictions anymore..." PavePusher Apr 2012 #17
and your comments are just hlthe2b Apr 2012 #73
but accurate gejohnston Apr 2012 #74
I note that you are usually among the more moderate here... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #75
let me clarify gejohnston Apr 2012 #79
Suggesting you "shoot to wound" IS foolish. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #88
I did NOT call you any names. PavePusher Apr 2012 #112
Depends on what you mean by "regret." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #49
Does the age of an assailant make you less dead? sarisataka Apr 2012 #57
Reminds of another Florida case a few months ago gejohnston Apr 2012 #66
Is it "morally justified" for a 16yo to threaten anyone with a gun? rl6214 Apr 2012 #67
Well said. NewMoonTherian Apr 2012 #81
"Non lethal, wounding shots" Callisto32 Apr 2012 #87
TV westerns are not documentaries. gejohnston Apr 2012 #5
Maybe but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #11
Firearms in circulation are up, but crime is down. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #13
Dang right thar Darryl! Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #33
I don't see what this has to do with the topic at hand. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #37
aka, "Look over here, don't look over there!!!!" is my guess. n/t X_Digger Apr 2012 #39
I believe that would be the most generous interpretation. Simo 1939_1940 Apr 2012 #56
There are lots of things you don't see. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #43
Please elaborate. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #53
You're kidding right? Please elaborate? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #62
I was talking about the whole mirror and picture thing. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #91
Let me get this straight Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #111
No. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #116
His bigotry is showing again. rl6214 Apr 2012 #68
That is so cool. Glassunion Apr 2012 #46
I know and his fashion sense is perfect. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #47
This is a rather staged photo. Glassunion Apr 2012 #48
Please tell me where I can get shorts like that n/t sarisataka Apr 2012 #59
I take it the pic is from gejohnston Apr 2012 #70
I've no idea where it's from Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #76
the architecture is wrong gejohnston Apr 2012 #80
Them roofs looks to be fer sheddin' snow. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #89
You are right!! one-eyed fat man Apr 2012 #72
Meh. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #86
Another tragedy made your day. Congratulations. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #2
Seeing good triumph over evil usually does make my day. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #16
"Evil"? A 16 year-old trying to hold up a store for $20-$100 is your sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #19
It certainly isn't my definition of "good". Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #20
No wonder we can't discuss guns, safety, crime, nor other subjects. We sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #27
LOL. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #34
I'm sorry that you live your life without compassion and in constant fear. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #42
I have plenty of compassion and I am not in constant fear. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #52
Clearly there is a difference between breaking a jaywalking law and sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #95
Interesting spin. X_Digger Apr 2012 #98
I'm glad you agree. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #99
I hope we will replace deadly 'tools' as well. However, I will continue sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #100
I respect your choice. I hope you will respect the choice of others who think differently. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #103
Good grief - how in hell did you come up with those assumptions?! Simo 1939_1940 Apr 2012 #58
If you think you have to have a gun with you at all times to sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #94
Unfounded accusation. Nice dodge. PavePusher Apr 2012 #113
Can you not see reply 94? sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #114
I see it. PavePusher Apr 2012 #119
If the person holding the gun/knife/bat didn't make you think that you actually expected.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #41
Maybe they would kill me and maybe they wouldn't. If their aim was solely to sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #45
If you had a 10-shot revolver.... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #50
Are you willing to risk being the one in ten? X_Digger Apr 2012 #55
I already answered that question. Yes, I'm willing to take that risk. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #93
And I'm not. X_Digger Apr 2012 #97
and sometimes sarisataka Apr 2012 #60
Because they don't know how to open the register WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #82
Armed robberies are a crapshoot! one-eyed fat man Apr 2012 #130
Can the victim trust a person who has threatened to kill them, and is holding a weapon ready AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #133
16 year olds can't be cold blooded killers? hack89 Apr 2012 #22
Yes. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #25
That is your choice to make. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #35
Thanks. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #44
No problem. It's all I expect from anyone. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #54
No ileus Apr 2012 #30
You haven't seen the half of it. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #38
Your disingenuity is showing pipoman Apr 2012 #63
Thought he was 16. OK not a child, a youth. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #65
Yeah, pipoman Apr 2012 #69
Looks like they did during the 90's Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #77
That's a pretty vile insinuation to make about the military. PavePusher Apr 2012 #115
Excuse me, but what is vile and what am I insinuating? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #121
something in common gejohnston Apr 2012 #122
Absolutely. It was a total fiasco. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #128
This: PavePusher Apr 2012 #127
Oh, please! "Indulge a desire to kill people"? You need to reword. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #129
That kid could have KILLED SOMEONE! slackmaster Apr 2012 #85
Wow. But he didn't kill anybody. The clerk did. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #96
His death was an unfortunate but justifiable result of HIS BAD CHOICE to point a gun at the clerk slackmaster Apr 2012 #104
Threating violent force against a fellow human being for such small sums sure as hell is. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #90
Evil. Straw Man Apr 2012 #101
As I stated up-thread, you and I don't agree on even basic definitions. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #102
Your problem is that you think "things" can be good/evil. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #105
The dictionary doesn't even agree with you. Evil as an adjective... sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #106
Thank you for proving me correct. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #123
Read the entire definition. Things most certainly can and are 'morally reprehensible'. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #124
I read the whole thing. You are still confused. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #125
I find guns and violence morally reprehensible. And good-bye. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #126
In this case, a 16-year-old CHOSE to pick up an "evil" tool and use it for an unlawful purpose slackmaster Apr 2012 #107
IMHO, it's still in the gun. My belief system says people cannot be 'evil' nor sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author one-eyed fat man Apr 2012 #131
You imply that force in defense is morally equivalent to force used in offensive crime. PavePusher Apr 2012 #117
ROFL. My agenda? I'm a pacifist! sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #120
A human threatening the life of another human is evil to me, yes. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #132
Must be nice living in your monochromatic world. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #26
Sometimes it just doesn't take much effort to see things as they are. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #32
"you seem to have a serious problem with moral relativism clouding your judgement. " Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #40
You keep rooting for the bad guy, mkay? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #51
I'll give you some credit for being honest about yourself. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #64
No one is saying it wasn't a tragic situation. I am merely celebrating the outcome. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #92
A grain of humility will get you a grain of recognition in return. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #110
You too. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #118
If that's your attitude, I'm very, very happy you're not a cop Union Scribe Apr 2012 #83
Yeah me too, though I was a damned good one. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #109
Your choice of (news?) source is rather unreliable davidthegnome Apr 2012 #3
Unreliable by what standard? ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author davidthegnome Apr 2012 #21
I get most of my news via reddit. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #14
Was is not just a week ago safeinOhio Apr 2012 #6
Yup. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #15
Thank you for the clarification. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #18
sociopaths are more comfy with their own kind. Bubbye. WingDinger Apr 2012 #8
So....are you telling us you are a sociopath and are going to join your own kind? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #61
It's immaterial whether or not he fired a shot at her tularetom Apr 2012 #12
When the smoke settles... Xela Apr 2012 #23
Holy Fuck! Unbelievable!!! Glassunion Apr 2012 #24
Life is cheaper in Fla. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #28
The pay is also lower. Glassunion Apr 2012 #29
On an island. But not one like Manhattan. No bridges. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #31
Hopefully the island Glassunion Apr 2012 #36
Hey, good job! That's even better than most gated communities! Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #71
Way, way better! Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #78
Tragic waste of a young life slackmaster Apr 2012 #84
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