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In the discussion thread: The GOP National Reciprocity Law would allow George Zimmerman to carry a concealed weapon anywhere [View all]

Response to baldguy (Reply #55)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:17 PM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

56. Nice try at shifting goal posts.

Self-defense is not "vigilantism" and legal protection of actual self-defense is not "vigilantism encoded into law".

Anyones misinterptretation of the law, including yours, is entirely their own responsibility. It's written in fairly plain english, as law goes.

Please cite to anyone here on D.U. that considers GZ a "hero". We'll wait.

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91 replies	Author	Time	Post
The GOP National Reciprocity Law would allow George Zimmerman to carry a concealed weapon anywhere [View all]	jpak	Mar 2012	OP
Just like strict gun laws in Chicago make it a paradise, especially on the south side	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#1
Please explain the "especially on the South Side" thing	jpak	Mar 2012	#2
No explanation necessary. It speaks for itself.	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#5
I win - and true colors have been exposed	jpak	Mar 2012	#6
I think they've been exposed for a long time.	Starboard Tack	Mar 2012	#7
win what?	Tuesday Afternoon	Mar 2012	#10
You can't hear the dog whistles?	baldguy	Mar 2012	#13
this dog don't hunt.	Tuesday Afternoon	Mar 2012	#26
Ayup.	Callisto32	Mar 2012	#53
Probably because that's where the vast majority of the shootings are	DonP	Mar 2012	#8
He's an anti on a poutrage. His seeming ignorance of the violence problem	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#12
A National Stand Your Ground Law and lots and lots of armed vigilantes would clear up that "problem"	jpak	Mar 2012	#29
And nearly all of the illegal guns used come from "law abiding gun owners"	baldguy	Mar 2012	#15
Yeah, we need more laws banning guns here.	DonP	Mar 2012	#19
So unless you are involved in that scene, not much need to tote -- Is there?	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#65
This coming from the person that is ALWAYS making bigoted and disparaging remarks	rl6214	Mar 2012	#22
thank you.	Tuesday Afternoon	Mar 2012	#27
Here you go....	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#43
If national reciprocity is the real issue...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Mar 2012	#3
Nope	jpak	Mar 2012	#4
Then why mention national reciprocity?	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Mar 2012	#14
AS I THOUGHT, NO ANSWER!	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#67
C'mon, do you want this guy to continue carrying? Seriously.	Starboard Tack	Mar 2012	#9
He DID NOT keep his gun. It's in possession of the Sanford PD.	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#11
This post was hidden by jury decision.	baldguy	Mar 2012	#17
With a $10k bounty (Dead or Alive) on his head	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#18
I would've thought you'd support vigilante justice for a murderer allowed to walk around free.	baldguy	Mar 2012	#20
Murder. You have proof he intended to kill someone that night	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#23
What a stupid comment	rl6214	Mar 2012	#24
It's purely meant to inflame since he can't deny the bounty on Zimmermans head.	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#25
enough of the regional bigotry	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#31
The only people pushing "vigilante justice" (oxymoron, much?) seem to be....	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#44
What are the insane "Stand Your Ground" laws other than vigilantism encoded into law?	baldguy	Mar 2012	#55
Nice try at shifting goal posts.	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#56
Of course nobody will come right out and say "Zimmerman was a hero."	baldguy	Mar 2012	#63
Zimmerman was in the wrong from the moment he left his vehicle.	krispos42	Apr 2012	#72
Cites, please. n/t	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#77
Zimmerman was not a hero. However, Zimmerman does not make all self-defense vigilantism.	Atypical Liberal	Apr 2012	#91
Self-defense.	krispos42	Apr 2012	#71
Do you?	oneshooter	Apr 2012	#64
Feel free to go protect him	Starboard Tack	Mar 2012	#38
I'm not protecting anyone. He has NOT been convicted of anything that would	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#40
So drunk drivers should be able to keep driving until convicted?	Starboard Tack	Mar 2012	#60
You mean they don't	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#61
Not after drying out. After being stopped	Starboard Tack	Mar 2012	#62
You've been defending him since this story first broke. He should have lost his right to carry	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#68
If you are going to make the accusation,	ManiacJoe	Apr 2012	#69
Simple, if someone wakes up everyday and sticks a gun down their pants to defend themselves, they	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#74
Ok, let me see if I've got this straight.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#76
I'm not defending anyone but would prefer all the facts come out	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#70
Yea, maybe if we wait for all the facts, it will blow over and NRA and pro-gun crowd can get back	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#73
Argh!	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Apr 2012	#75
As it should be. It is evidence in a homicide case.	Starboard Tack	Mar 2012	#37
Again, he hasn't been convicted of anything. He has a $10k bounty on his head	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#39
There are organizations through which right wing gun supporters will contribute to Zim's defense.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#66
If he were charged, it would be suspended. Once convicted, revoked.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#80
Unfortunately, politicians usually make that call	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#81
Care to actually answer?	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#82
Sorry to upset you, but it's not my call	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#83
That'd clog up the courts for years.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#84
I think you need to study up on how the system works.	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#85
No, I think you do. google 'prosecutorial discretion'. n/t	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#86
I don't need to Google it.	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#87
It doesn't work that way in Florida- not for manslaughter or murder.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#88
OK I guess we are both right and wrong.	Starboard Tack	Apr 2012	#89
That's my point.	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#90
Not the issue here. n/t	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Mar 2012	#16
If you have a Florida CCW permit	Old Codger	Mar 2012	#28
YUP, that's right, as long as one is licensed.	rl6214	Mar 2012	#21
What's Crazy	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#30
for example?	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#32
Repeal?	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#33
think about it	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#35
Ask Them	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#36
He/she asked you to name one. nt	rrneck	Mar 2012	#41
In other words	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#42
No wonder they're hungry...	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#45
And I believe it was	sarisataka	Mar 2012	#47
Fair observation	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#48
again we see eye to eye...	sarisataka	Mar 2012	#49
Across the Street....but same country....LOL	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#50
I learn more ...	sarisataka	Mar 2012	#52
Agree Completely	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#54
That's funny.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#78
So why do we all support McDonald v. Chicago?	hack89	Apr 2012	#79
And if a dozen or so states weren't impossibly anal-retentive about reciprocity...	krispos42	Mar 2012	#34
I have a question	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#46
Are you saying ....	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#51
not saying that	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#57
The Law answers that question	fightthegoodfightnow	Mar 2012	#58
We can only dream of National Reciprocity...	ileus	Mar 2012	#59

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