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Pretty much everything here is wrong. TheWraith Mar 2012 #1
Is that the GOP Talking fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #3
Police have no responsibility to protect individuals (reference) sarisataka Mar 2012 #8
Wrong Interpretation....again fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #10
The idea that a citizen must rely... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #12
Nonsense fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #14
Said? No. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #28
Never Said or Implied fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #29
Gonna have to agree to disagree on that point. ;) (nt) eqfan592 Mar 2012 #55
I took it as very much implied, too. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #88
A moral responsibility... sarisataka Mar 2012 #18
Don't Disagree fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #35
Moral or otherwise, they are almost never there when you need them. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #38
Too bad. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #42
They do a good job, sarisataka Mar 2012 #54
Option 1 fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #59
You have my condolences... sarisataka Mar 2012 #64
Thanks very much...and the same best wishes to you. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #69
Circumstances vary wildly. PavePusher Mar 2012 #80
Never Said It Was Anyone's Experience Other Than Mine fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #82
Why didn't the police protect you? GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #136
How many times have you been the victim of crime? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #58
Wrong fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #60
And in all three cases no police were there to protect you. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #151
"To bad. Not my experience." PavePusher Mar 2012 #79
Contempt? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #81
I stand with PavePusher on this Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #90
Contempt for those not protected by police? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #92
while you seem to have sympathy for your own plight your empathy for other's situations, I am having Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #94
Sympathy? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #97
peace on you. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #99
oh dear ... Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #101
Seriously fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #106
you know me so well... Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #109
And the police didn't protect you rl6214 Mar 2012 #156
If that was not your message, you need to edit your post. PavePusher Mar 2012 #134
"I know the cops who walk my street" rl6214 Mar 2012 #155
Which doesn't mean shit to the person being beaten to death in an alley. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #78
See post 59 fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #111
You were beaten to death in an alley? Wow! Glassunion Mar 2012 #143
You owe me about a quarter cup of coffee and some windex.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #144
She turned him into Newt Gingrich? AH1Apache Mar 2012 #145
Not cool sarisataka Mar 2012 #148
False dichotomy. Glassunion Mar 2012 #149
Only in your head fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #185
Follow the path... Glassunion Mar 2012 #200
What is considered a good response time for the police ... spin Mar 2012 #37
^^^^^^^^^^^so TRUE^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #91
Indeed. Oneka Mar 2012 #150
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. (n/t) spin Mar 2012 #171
"Castle Doctrine" is in a lot of states, but not Stand Your Ground krispos42 Mar 2012 #77
Distinction is a good one fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #102
The terms get tossed around a lot krispos42 Mar 2012 #116
Thanks for input and clarification. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #121
Don't take it for gospel krispos42 Mar 2012 #130
A problem can arise when there are only two people in a self defense incident ... spin Mar 2012 #173
Stop! ObamaFTW2012 Mar 2012 #172
Disagree mostly tularetom Mar 2012 #2
Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #5
According to numerous court cases they don't have a responsibility to protect you. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #7
Wrong Interpretation fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #9
Repeating the same crap over and over... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #13
Crap? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #16
Your false outrage is noted. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #30
Whatever fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #32
If you honestly think there IS a huge distinction between the two... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #57
Vulgarity diminishes you..not me. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #62
oh lord Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #96
Responding to a post not directed at you..... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #100
laughing, darling, laughing on a PUBLIC message board. you understand that much, right? Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #103
I'm Not your Darling fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #107
the Second Ammendment is one of the Cornerstones of Our Constitution. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #110
Well... look at that fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #112
well. look at that --- your usual condescending attitude Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #115
I hold no personal malice toward you fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #117
too bad your OP is flamebait and belongs over at FR. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #119
Guns fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #123
E.J. Dionne Jr. can kiss my ass. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #128
"anything about guns"? rl6214 Mar 2012 #157
Since when is morality a function of the law? GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #22
Right... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #24
Try going into court and arguing morality instead of law. N/T GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #27
It's Done Every Day fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #31
And LAW is always the trump. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #39
Go Back and Read the Entire Thread fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #40
Nice motto. But they still don't have a duty to protect YOU. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #44
Never Said What You Seem to Attribute to Me fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #46
If it's painted on their car door, it *must* be true.. lol. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #48
So It's NOT a part of their job? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #50
Please take your fingers out of my mouth.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #53
Childish response fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #114
You think decals on a car are proof of.. something? And I'm childish? X_Digger Mar 2012 #127
Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #179
Did you ever ask a cop what their main responsibility is? n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #187
Got It fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #189
Kindly keep your fingers out of my mouth, please. X_Digger Mar 2012 #194
"Let me know when you want to talk about guns and police protection." rl6214 Mar 2012 #161
Google 'duty to protect and serve Supreme Court ruling' rl6214 Mar 2012 #160
Yawn fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #180
Yawn, exactly, you've got nothing. rl6214 Mar 2012 #199
Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #201
Anything about guns? rl6214 Mar 2012 #159
Anything about guns? rl6214 Mar 2012 #158
So, by virtue of their failure to protect, the police are immoral and failed their responsibilities. PavePusher Mar 2012 #85
Only in Your Mind fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #86
Their main responsibility is to investigate crime *after the fact*. X_Digger Mar 2012 #19
Really fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #23
*snort* X_Digger Mar 2012 #36
Nice Try fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #41
Reading comprehension problem? X_Digger Mar 2012 #43
Oh... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #45
So did you ask? Well? Do tell.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #47
Mistook your post for another poster perhaps fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #49
Did you ask a cop what their main duty is? No? X_Digger Mar 2012 #52
Brer Rabbit continues with other foot -- Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #108
I thought you said the monitor before a crime is committed rl6214 Mar 2012 #163
It's that whole Tom Cruise thang.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #170
Exactly fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #176
You just keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better rl6214 Mar 2012 #195
And that has eliminated murder (or any crime).... PavePusher Mar 2012 #87
Not to the Point fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #89
"monitoring citizens prior to a crime being committed? " rl6214 Mar 2012 #162
Oh good grief fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #178
The police had no duty... sarisataka Mar 2012 #21
No, not blaming. Stop with the twisting. PavePusher Mar 2012 #83
Nor is Everyone With a Lawful Gun Safe fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #84
Dodge. PavePusher Mar 2012 #131
Did the cops learn to rrneck Mar 2012 #4
Minority Report or very like it. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #104
Cool! rrneck Mar 2012 #120
There will be an app for that, I'm sure Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #129
Self-defense is not based on mere feelings. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #6
Reasonable Man..... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #11
Thank you for underscoring... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #15
Paranoia? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #17
I'm talking about your reaction to the idea of a "reasonable man." eqfan592 Mar 2012 #33
Paranoid about what? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #34
But a lot of forensic evidence. N/T GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #25
Unless you're suggesting that the "reasonable man" standard shouldn't be applied w/o a witness... beevul Mar 2012 #135
Being down on your back... jeepnstein Mar 2012 #139
Yeah they've had pretty good luck dismantling government. ileus Mar 2012 #20
On the Contrary fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #26
There's a lot of truth in that. It's going to be ugly if we have a national disaster with all the Hoyt Mar 2012 #51
Blood is running in the street... ellisonz Mar 2012 #56
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #63
Do hate the cops so much fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #65
I have a lot of friends who are LEO's. Clames Mar 2012 #70
Same Holds true for You fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #73
I would hope you wouldn't approach an unlikely situation with a military type barrage of bullets. Hoyt Mar 2012 #74
Search and destroy. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #75
Hope You Just Don't Support them by Just giving them Chalk fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #76
He wasn't blaming anyone. PavePusher Mar 2012 #132
Now there is an ad appealing to the fears of the gun culture. What a load. Hoyt Mar 2012 #68
why is this NOT any more disruptive than the other? Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #98
Katrina comes to mind...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #61
Exactly. Makes me think those fleeing NOrleans to Gretna might have been worse off if they made it. Hoyt Mar 2012 #66
Something you have no experience with... Clames Mar 2012 #67
Smart move I'd say in that case. Hoyt Mar 2012 #71
ah, yes...Illegal actions are smart moves. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #93
Every time I think you've dropped as low as a person can.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #95
I think someone needs to be in charge in a disaster. Hoyt Mar 2012 #105
Keep adding to the tally, Hoyt. X_Digger Mar 2012 #125
RIGHT BECAUSE STAND YOUR GROUND LAWS ARE ALL ABOUT THOSE THINGS fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #202
*ahem* -- would you like to join the conversation? X_Digger Mar 2012 #205
Comical...really comical fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #206
The conversation had diverged into Post-Katrina NOLA, and Hoyt's acceptance.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #207
Right ....the conversation diverged fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #208
So.. anything topical to this subthread? X_Digger Mar 2012 #209
Anything Relevant to the Original Post fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #212
Perhaps you don't understand the concept of a threaded discussion? X_Digger Mar 2012 #213
The people who were supposed to be in charge..... PavePusher Mar 2012 #133
Better than a bunch of right wing "militia" types. Hoyt Mar 2012 #138
Your so called RW militia types AH1Apache Mar 2012 #142
At the mayor and other Gretna officials' orders. Hoyt Mar 2012 #146
You have absolutely no fucking proof AH1Apache Mar 2012 #147
Yes I do. If those people escaping NOrleans had gone into the racist town of Gretna, they would Hoyt Mar 2012 #152
You have hit rock bottom and started digging. rl6214 Mar 2012 #166
"Low" is calling for citizens to arm up and shoot each other. Hoyt Mar 2012 #168
And of course you can show us where ANYONE said that, right? rl6214 Mar 2012 #174
Uh huh, suuuuuuuuuuuure Hoyt AH1Apache Mar 2012 #169
"146. At the mayor and other Gretna officials' orders." rl6214 Mar 2012 #165
Don't be stupid. I'm saying the racist town leaders are MOST responsible. Hoyt Mar 2012 #167
Don't be backing up now and changing what you said...this is what was said: rl6214 Mar 2012 #175
Are you denying the backward people in Gretna would have shot fleeing people? Hoyt Mar 2012 #177
Geeeeeeeeeez Hoyt AH1Apache Mar 2012 #182
Nope, leaders told the police to keep them from crossing the bridge though they were dehydrated and Hoyt Mar 2012 #188
I call bullshit AH1Apache Mar 2012 #190
BTW AH1Apache Mar 2012 #191
I know right wingers all over this country were enjoying watching people dying in NO. And I know Hoyt Mar 2012 #192
So you have no proof AH1Apache Mar 2012 #193
That's all he's got, just his normal BS shitck rl6214 Mar 2012 #198
Two of your bigotted shtick comments in one post, you should have tried for the trifecta rl6214 Mar 2012 #197
You are making an ASSumption about something you know nothing about rl6214 Mar 2012 #196
Sure...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #204
Ah yes, organizing a protest via the internet rl6214 Mar 2012 #164
You mean like imminent domaine? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #113
"without just compensation" -- ring a bell? You'll notice those words in post #95. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #122
Sure fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #124
Eminent domain has nothing to do with buy-backs. X_Digger Mar 2012 #126
Yeah AH1Apache Mar 2012 #141
..and some gun owners illegally took life and property. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #72
who gives a shit about the GOP? I damn well don't. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #118
How in the world can SYG be conflated to mean pursuing a person? Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #137
Bingo. +a whole bunch. nt rrneck Mar 2012 #154
Who was pursuing who? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #184
does it even matter? Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #186
So tell me what would be your"utopia", and how would you go about forming it? oneshooter Mar 2012 #140
Be more worried about what a gun can do than what I say fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #183
Nice dodge. I really could care less about what you say. oneshooter Mar 2012 #210
No dodge fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #211
Talk about conspiracy theories rl6214 Mar 2012 #153
NOTICE HOW GUN AVOCATES FOLLOW GOP MANTRA THAT ONLY THEY CAN DO WHAT THE GOVT CAN'T OR SHOULDN'T fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #181
no I don't notice that gejohnston Mar 2012 #203
I disagree Glassunion Mar 2012 #214
Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #217
I don't follow that mantra. Glassunion Mar 2012 #226
Perhaps you could be more specific. PavePusher Mar 2012 #215
Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #222
"sole responsibility"? Cite, please. PavePusher Mar 2012 #229
We don't say ONLY we can do it, just that the GOVT should not be the ONLY one that can do it. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #220
Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #223
There is only one problem with stand your ground. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #228
Your claims seem quite hollow. PavePusher Mar 2012 #230
you have it backwards gejohnston Mar 2012 #232
i was thinking it's just a way to encourage people to buy guns CreekDog Mar 2012 #216
Perhaps fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #218
because many of them don't think like you and I do CreekDog Mar 2012 #219
are you accusing fellow gejohnston Mar 2012 #221
no, i didn't say that CreekDog Mar 2012 #224
GeJohnson fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #225
by reading between the lines gejohnston Mar 2012 #227
No, we just have impure thoughts. PavePusher Mar 2012 #231
not if you're a progressive on a broad range of issues CreekDog Mar 2012 #233
Why didn't you say so, gejohnston Mar 2012 #234
i never singled out people, i singled out a pattern CreekDog Mar 2012 #235
Cool I will say gejohnston Mar 2012 #236
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