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In reply to the discussion: Md Gun law found unconstitutional [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)73. You are confusing ACTIONS with SUCCESS.
Ok, Individuals cannot "institute,.. reform, alter, or totally change" government without the consent of the people as a whole.
You are suggesting that individuals may not SUCCEED at any ACTION designed to "institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same."
I did not ask you that. I asked you to name one thing that they could not actually DO. As in, a specific action.
Name one action that individuals cannot DO while trying to "institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same." that the people can do.
You are suggesting that individuals may not SUCCEED at any ACTION designed to "institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same."
I did not ask you that. I asked you to name one thing that they could not actually DO. As in, a specific action.
Name one action that individuals cannot DO while trying to "institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same." that the people can do.
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Cite the historical records, writtings of the authors of the Constitution and Amendments...
PavePusher
Mar 2012
#38
re: "...when "the people" are bearing arms, they're maintaining a militia."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2012
#58
Regardless of your blatant misinterpretation, MY state has no such clause to misinterpret.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#94
The second half was aimed, quite obviously, at individuals and corporations building
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#96
I'm not sure if we're speaking the same language, or if you are being intentionally obtuse.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#107
That's because all it takes is one example to demonstrate the hole in your arguement.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#21
I'm not going to slog through this. I reject the entire premise of "collective rights".
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#49
There is nothing that the people as a whole can do that a single person cannot do.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#54
You're almost there. What ACTIONS do individuals have the RIGHT to do.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#81
Nope, still no actions listed that the public can undertake that individuals cannot.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#88
I made the mistake of checking in latest threads instead of the forum - lesson learned. Sorry again
kelly1mm
Mar 2012
#9
"Rationing" can also be used to describe meting something out by perceived need.
TheWraith
Mar 2012
#13