Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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71. the militia

Reply to Glenn Vardy (Reply #63)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 06:06 PM

Mar 2012

On this I can we should agree to disagree,
as there are none so blind as those who will not see.

have a nice day

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Md Gun law found unconstitutional [View all] kelly1mm Mar 2012 OP

once again our courts get it wrong...truley pathetic. bowens43 Mar 2012 #1

I think the rulling is in keeping with the Heller and McDonald cases. kelly1mm Mar 2012 #2

Violate their rights 'for the children'...got it.. pipoman Mar 2012 #3

so drug gangs apply for CCWs? gejohnston Mar 2012 #5

"Our courts get it wrong" ?? Excuse me? MerkMan Mar 2012 #10

It's a militia amendment. Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #14

Please read your own post carefully... virginia mountainman Mar 2012 #15

"Every member of society..." Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #19

grasping at straws. virginia mountainman Mar 2012 #25

Cite your evidence, please. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #28

It IS evidence. Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #31

Cite the historical records, writtings of the authors of the Constitution and Amendments... PavePusher Mar 2012 #38

LOOK AT IT Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #52

Picking up a gun? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #57

They did. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #98

If they did, then... Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #99

Not to me. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #105

Side quibble, but when quoting something AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #97

Easier to distort? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #101

But one 'draft' has legal force in law. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #106

My personal characterization... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #32

Mason in context Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #34

The exemption of public officers... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #36

Unrelated??? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #50

re: "...when "the people" are bearing arms, they're maintaining a militia." discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #58

The importance of a "well regulated militia." Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #63

the militia discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #71

See "importance of a well regulated militia" Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #75

re: "...I'm not the one who will not see." discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #78

More quotes addressed Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #79

As I said... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #80

Regardless of your blatant misinterpretation, MY state has no such clause to misinterpret. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #94

Explain my misinterpretation. Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #95

The second half was aimed, quite obviously, at individuals and corporations building AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #96

"Aimed.. at individuals?" Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #102

I'm not sure if we're speaking the same language, or if you are being intentionally obtuse. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #107

Ummmm....did youread what you quoted? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #16

Did you only read the word "themselves?" Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #17

So "themselves" excludes individuals? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #18

You're still focusing on "themselves." Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #20

That's because all it takes is one example to demonstrate the hole in your arguement. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #21

Right to assemble Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #22

Like I said, even the President disagrees with your interpretation. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #23

Rights differ in their application. Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #26

remember when gejohnston Mar 2012 #27

What's your point? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #29

my point gejohnston Mar 2012 #30

I'm changing the definition? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #33

so riddle me this gejohnston Mar 2012 #35

"The people" in the U.S. BoR Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #72

Because I don't understand what you are trying to say. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #39

Being a Harvard graduate is no particular guarantee of infallibility. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #40

But it probably puts you ahead of some internet expert. n/t Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #42

For gejohnston Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #47

I'm not going to slog through this. I reject the entire premise of "collective rights". Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #49

You reject what's plain to see. Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #51

Why I'm doing this Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #53

Name one way that that is true. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #55

There is nothing that the people as a whole can do that a single person cannot do. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #54

Vice President Jones? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #60

They have the same rights to do those things as anyone else. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #61

One thing? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #66

Name one action that individuals cannot do that people can do. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #74

Chirp chirp chirp - still waiting. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #67

Your one thing Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #68

You are confusing ACTIONS with SUCCESS. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #73

Wrong questions = wrong conclusions Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #76

You're almost there. What ACTIONS do individuals have the RIGHT to do. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #81

Your answer Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #84

Nope, still no actions listed that the public can undertake that individuals cannot. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #88

"Alone" Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #90

Still doesn't answer the question. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #92

Do you agree? Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #93

You still can't answer the question. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #100

An individual acting "alone." Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #103

You gonna answer my question? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #104

Chirp chirp chirp... Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #108

A belated... ellisonz Mar 2012 #41

Thank you... Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #44

BTW... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #82

Thank you too, but... Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #85

fine discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #86

Collective right, personal exemption Glenn Vardy Mar 2012 #89

Oh, the hyperbole! cleanhippie Mar 2012 #24

I bet the court... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #37

Lovejoy'd on the first post. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #48

"truly pathetic?? orangeagent27 Apr 2012 #109

Helen Lovejoy agrees with you: friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #110

Bit late on this one OP... Clames Mar 2012 #4

Was this already posted? EDIT - it was! Sorry! This thread can be closed mods! kelly1mm Mar 2012 #6

Just a few entries down. Clames Mar 2012 #8

I made the mistake of checking in latest threads instead of the forum - lesson learned. Sorry again kelly1mm Mar 2012 #9

Don't fret, sometimes a little redundancy is not a bad thing. 8>) n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #11

Well, it's not as if this *ever* happens in GD. Say, with Rush threads... Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #12

Don't think 'rationing' is the correct term. elleng Mar 2012 #7

"Rationing" can also be used to describe meting something out by perceived need. TheWraith Mar 2012 #13

not exactly authoritative, is it? iverglas Mar 2012 #43

What "very important implications of the ruling for public safety" pipoman Mar 2012 #45

was "the discrimination of bias" argued in this case? iverglas Mar 2012 #46

The United States of America found the right. Twice. TPaine7 Mar 2012 #56

somebody sure has Judge Legg's number iverglas Mar 2012 #59

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #64

Did you miss this? pipoman Mar 2012 #83

oh my iverglas Mar 2012 #91

Here's a link to the opinion: petronius Mar 2012 #62

strikes me that the solution is precisely tailored to the problem it is intended to solve iverglas Mar 2012 #65

But he also found that there is not a "general prohibition on petronius Mar 2012 #69

my reference was to the Maryland legislation: iverglas Mar 2012 #70

The Maryland legislation which he just said was unconstitutional petronius Mar 2012 #77

Is this the part where blood starts running in the streets? Kennah Mar 2012 #87