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In reply to the discussion: School Kids Dying in Ohio: It's a Gun Problem [View all]Straw Man
(6,596 posts)138. No, it's a good word.
Do you recognize that a gun owner has a far higher level of accountability than the owner of a hammer, or car, or other item which could be used to kill, but is not inherently dangerous? Surely, we can agree on that.
First of all, I strongly dispute that cars are not "inherently dangerous." Secondly, I would agree with you that owners of "inherently dangerous" items have a higher degree of responsibility, but what is at issue here is where we fix that degree. To some, the fact that an item was stolen is incontrovertible proof of the owner's irresponsibility. I totally reject that formulation. It is just prohibitionist sophistry. Let me toss this question back to you: What physical anti-theft methods would you mandate, how would you enforce these mandates, and what would be the penalty for non-compliance?
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Well it wasn't rare for the parents of the kid who got burned. You know the logical next step.
Pacafishmate
Mar 2012
#68
One wonders how you did miss the much higher rate of death associated with Automobiles, versus guns
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#160
The kid stole a firearm that was not properly secured. What is "properly secured"?
oneshooter
Mar 2012
#6
You and Brewster may intend it as sarcastic, but he's right on the money.
Starboard Tack
Mar 2012
#33
You are ignoring the fact that it can be made into one. And that by not securing it properly
oneshooter
Mar 2012
#111
"Your side just can't get away from blaming inanimate objects. That is a problem in and of itself."
ellisonz
Mar 2012
#77
What about a gun stolen from a Police Station? By your "logic" the cops shouldn't own guns.
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#141
Mea culpa...I don't think I've ever known anyone who thinks American cops shouldn't have guns.
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#157
Brilliant. "the kind of firearm this kid used is about as "benign" a firearm as exists"
Starboard Tack
Mar 2012
#20
When the same proposals are made in legislatures, they are acknowledged by all...
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2012
#80
"Responsibility and accountability" is the new "reasonable and common-sense"
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2012
#81
No no...it's a gun, ask any Anti they'll tell you guns kill people...designed to kill no less.
ileus
Mar 2012
#83
So once again... it's okay if teenagers are troubled, bullied, teased, and become violent.
krispos42
Mar 2012
#129
Nobody is denying that access to firearms plays a role in this sort of thing
krispos42
Mar 2012
#142