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In reply to the discussion: Md Gun law found unconstitutional [View all]Glenn Vardy
(483 posts)20. You're still focusing on "themselves."
So when it says, "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves" you are saying that two people can work in concert to defend each other but one person alone cannot defend himself?
You're still focusing on that one word to avoid addressing all the points I made in my first post.
Anyway, your error this time is to assume that "the people" is referring to individual members of society. But it isn't.
Sketches of American Policy By Noah Webster.
"This association of all the individuals of a community is called the body politic or State... The members, spoken of COLLECTIVELLY, are called PEOPLE, spoken of SEVERALLY, they may be called CITIZENS."
When the people are bearing arms in their COLLECTIVE capacity, they're maintaining a militia.
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Cite the historical records, writtings of the authors of the Constitution and Amendments...
PavePusher
Mar 2012
#38
re: "...when "the people" are bearing arms, they're maintaining a militia."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2012
#58
Regardless of your blatant misinterpretation, MY state has no such clause to misinterpret.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#94
The second half was aimed, quite obviously, at individuals and corporations building
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#96
I'm not sure if we're speaking the same language, or if you are being intentionally obtuse.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#107
That's because all it takes is one example to demonstrate the hole in your arguement.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#21
I'm not going to slog through this. I reject the entire premise of "collective rights".
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#49
There is nothing that the people as a whole can do that a single person cannot do.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#54
You're almost there. What ACTIONS do individuals have the RIGHT to do.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#81
Nope, still no actions listed that the public can undertake that individuals cannot.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#88
I made the mistake of checking in latest threads instead of the forum - lesson learned. Sorry again
kelly1mm
Mar 2012
#9
"Rationing" can also be used to describe meting something out by perceived need.
TheWraith
Mar 2012
#13