Gun Control & RKBA

ellisonz

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34. I'm not surprised.

Reply to tortoise1956 (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 25, 2012, 03:45 AM

Feb 2012

There are perfectly reasonable gun owners, and then there are the extremists who don't think people should be responsible for their choices.

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What is the appropriate consequence - [View all] digonswine Feb 2012 OP

what would you like to see happen? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #1

Whoa nellie! digonswine Feb 2012 #3

chill, dude --- you asked the question.. all I did was ask YOUR thoughts about it -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #5

OK-that is fair enough- digonswine Feb 2012 #7

it was snark iverglas Feb 2012 #66

I tend to agree-- digonswine Mar 2012 #73

Gun culture just want right to tote in public -- but no responsibility. Hoyt Feb 2012 #9

For the amount of posting your do in this forum, one would think you would learn something. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #12

As of now- digonswine Feb 2012 #17

And what will they do about? Next thread they'll be promoting more guns in more places. Hoyt Feb 2012 #27

Hmm. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #40

I hate to say it- digonswine Feb 2012 #18

Problem is gun culture chalks it up to negligence so they don't have to take any responsibility. Hoyt Feb 2012 #26

You have no idea what you are talking about. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #41

It is good that you agree that it all counts. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #48

Negligence resulting in a homicide can be prosecuted. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #56

I am all for this guy having responsibility for his actions. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #23

How about the gun culture, NRA, etc., taking some responsibility? Hoyt Feb 2012 #29

Right after *you* take responsibility for Newt Gingrich. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #30

I can say I never voted for the racist -- and not surprisingly gun supporting -- candidate. Hoyt Feb 2012 #36

Why should anyone else take responsibility for what an individual did? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #49

By God, you can be vile. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #39

Not so vile as to carry a gun in public. Guess we have different definition of vile. Hoyt Feb 2012 #52

No, just enough to be a bigot. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #74

I'm waiting patiently until someone on the anti-gun side shadowrider Feb 2012 #2

So you simply throw up your hands- digonswine Feb 2012 #4

I NEVER said what you say I said shadowrider Feb 2012 #6

My problem is- digonswine Feb 2012 #8

I give up shadowrider Feb 2012 #10

But there is a consequence when drivers drive drunk- digonswine Feb 2012 #15

I'm always torn on questions like this: my knee-jerk response is to have petronius Feb 2012 #11

Not to mention he has the guilt of what happened shadowrider Feb 2012 #13

That too, certainly - I can't even begin to try to imagine what that feels like... petronius Feb 2012 #14

Too bad the gun culture won't accept any guilt over this type stuff. Hoyt Feb 2012 #28

I read Car & Driver. Should I accept guilt over car crashes? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #31

If you are promoting more dangerous cars on streets and reckless driving -- Yes. Hoyt Feb 2012 #35

Ok, I have to know...what would you define as a "dangerous" car? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #37

Hoyt, ALL cars (and guns) are capable of killing when operated improperly. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #46

Yep, and we legislate shape of door handles and all kinds of stuff. Police catch speeders, etc. Hoyt Feb 2012 #47

So you want guns regulated like cars? Do you really want to do that discussion again? OneTenthofOnePercent Feb 2012 #61

I want guns regulated like the lethal weapons they are. And carriers regulated closely as well. Hoyt Feb 2012 #62

Pocket knives are lethal weapons. Should they be regulated as you would have firearms regulated? OneTenthofOnePercent Feb 2012 #64

Quit being obtuse. Actually they are. In my state you can carry a gun but not a sword. Hoyt Feb 2012 #65

"Shows how much influence the NRA and other right wing lobbying groups have" rl6214 Mar 2012 #71

The NRA and right wing gunners are consequential, though misled. Hoyt Mar 2012 #72

Some mistakes you are not allowed to make- digonswine Feb 2012 #16

I disagree. The consequences of fucking up with a firearm are grave. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #24

Thanks. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #42

Is there an appropriate consequence? ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #19

Jail time sounds good to me. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #25

Criminal negligence and a manslaughter charge. ellisonz Feb 2012 #20

This may surprise you, but I wholeheartedly agree tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #33

I'm not surprised. ellisonz Feb 2012 #34

My parents raised me to assume personal responsibility for my actions... tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #45

"All 9 Supreme Court justices agree" ellisonz Feb 2012 #50

That would be the Heller case. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #51

Would you care to quote where in in the Stevens and Breyer opinions... ellisonz Feb 2012 #53

anyone else see the irony? gejohnston Feb 2012 #54

Tragic accident, lesson learned. ileus Feb 2012 #21

Possible criminal and civil suits Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #22

Probably the best suggestion yet. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #44

Several years in prison would be appropriate friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #32

Depraved heart muder. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #38

In my state it would probably be billed as Involuntary Manslaughter slackmaster Feb 2012 #43

I would call it criminal negligence. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #55

Right-O digonswine Feb 2012 #57

Negligent homicide, manslaughter, something like that. montanto Feb 2012 #58

What happens to someone who unintentionally causes another's death Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #59

I'm not sure if that is the same level of negligence- digonswine Feb 2012 #60

unbelievable iverglas Feb 2012 #67

That is criminal negligence and manslaughter. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #68

Willful intent is immaterial, in your mind? Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #69

That's why we have involuntary manslaughter charges in many states... ellisonz Feb 2012 #70

Involuntary Manslaughter will be the charge DWC Feb 2012 #63