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In the discussion thread: The Myth Of NRA Dominance Part I and II: The NRA’s Ineffective Spending and Overrated Endorsements [View all]

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 03:16 PM

gejohnston (12,553 posts)

47. that is when you change the

board of directors, the people who actually run the place. The rank and file can sometimes believe the BS, but not always. It kind of reminds me of when my brother was in the navy in the mid 1960s. His submarine pulled into a port neutral next to an East German sub. While NATO and Warsaw Pact politicians made their fear mongering and MIC funding rants, the sub crews went out and partied together, traded uniform parts, and some woke up on the wrong sub.

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111 replies	Author	Time	Post
The Myth Of NRA Dominance Part I and II: The NRA’s Ineffective Spending and Overrated Endorsements [View all]	ellisonz	Feb 2012	OP
If it's ineffective and overrated, you can't complain they're "scaring" Democrats into compliance.	TheWraith	Feb 2012	#1
That doesn't stop the meme of NRA-power from being spread.	ellisonz	Feb 2012	#2
And what office is Dr. Dean running for this year?	DonP	Feb 2012	#10
He's semi-retired. n/t	ellisonz	Feb 2012	#12
If they're SO ineffective, why all the whining from the anti-gun zealots about how	rl6214	Feb 2012	#17
Because the one thing they succeed in is fooling...	ellisonz	Feb 2012	#20
But how can they be succeding if, according to the OP, they are irrelevant in the elections.	rl6214	Feb 2012	#24
They are irrelevant in swinging close elections...	ellisonz	Feb 2012	#25
Perfectly clear	rl6214	Feb 2012	#30
Yes. They fooled a bunch of Democrats, including Slick Willie himself. nt	SteveW	Feb 2012	#103
And How Did That Work Out?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#35
More like...	Clames	Feb 2012	#3
It's my belief that an NRA endorsement might make the difference in a close election...	spin	Feb 2012	#4
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2012	#5
As long as there are groups like VPC,	Clames	Feb 2012	#7
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2012	#8
This message was self-deleted by its author	ellisonz	Feb 2012	#13
Yea....	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#36
So how long have you been a Brady member?	DonP	Feb 2012	#37
So Many questions.	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#38
So very disappointing.	DonP	Feb 2012	#39
Talk about Blather	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#41
What? And miss the hysterical humor you offer? Never.	DonP	Feb 2012	#43
By support....	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#45
that is when you change the	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#47
Got It	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#48
Got it	Oneka	Feb 2012	#58
Do You Want Me to Join?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#72
Well, Don, is there really anything there to join? nt	SteveW	Feb 2012	#105
Asked and Answered	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#61
Assume	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#63
So, all you really do is talk about gun control - got it	DonP	Feb 2012	#64
Right	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#65
DC had a chance for voting rights, representation, et al.	beevul	Feb 2012	#66
Yep	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#67
Then YOU have nothing to complain about.	beevul	Feb 2012	#68
I Leave You to Your Circular Arguments	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#69
Now shares...err I mean FTGFN...it isnt nice to put words in peoples mouths.	beevul	Feb 2012	#70
Draconian?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#71
Yes draconian.	beevul	Feb 2012	#73
Huh?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#74
Looks like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what happened.	beevul	Feb 2012	#75
Wrong	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#76
No. YOU are wrong.	beevul	Feb 2012	#79
Start From the Top	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#80
"What you characterize as a choice was not."	beevul	Feb 2012	#88
Should that 'Choice'	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#89
That really doesnt matter, because whats past is past.	beevul	Feb 2012	#90
'IT DOESN'T MATTER'	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#91
I didn't say it didn't matter to me.	beevul	Feb 2012	#92
???	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#94
I'll make this REALLY simple for you:	beevul	Feb 2012	#99
Let Me Be REALLY Simple	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#100
There can be no discussion if youre unwilling to make your position crystal clear.	beevul	Feb 2012	#102
We don't expect you to join the NRA or the Bradys; they're both GOP. nt	SteveW	Feb 2012	#106
Well when they actually....	Clames	Feb 2012	#59
Like What	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#95
Oh you know...	Clames	Feb 2012	#96
Just What I Thought	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#97
to quote H.L. Mencken	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#98
No...	Clames	Feb 2012	#101
Point of order: Didn't Beevul ask you to "state your position?" nt	SteveW	Feb 2012	#107
He did	shadowrider	Apr 2012	#110
Sure Emanuel will "wage the tough fight." It ain't his money. nt	SteveW	Feb 2012	#104
The 2A isn't left or right....	ileus	Feb 2012	#6
Very true. (n/t)	spin	Feb 2012	#9
It's been used by right for some nasty things?	Hoyt	Feb 2012	#16
The NRA could be a cog in the left-wing machine...	krispos42	Feb 2012	#11
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2012	#14
Excellent post. If not from the NRA, whither come the decades of liberal gun laws?	Atypical Liberal	Feb 2012	#28
Ergo (LOL)....	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#34
Or at least the ILA branch.	krispos42	Feb 2012	#60
Huh?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#81
You do realize you replied to that post last week, right? n/t	krispos42	Feb 2012	#86
So?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#87
Just making sure. n/t	krispos42	Feb 2012	#93
The NRAs job is to lie, scare people and raise money!	Logical	Feb 2012	#15
But according to the OP they are SO ineffective, so what's the big deal?	rl6214	Feb 2012	#18
Well, being a liberal I dislike them lying about Obama. Should bother you also...	Logical	Feb 2012	#19
How about Standing Up to the NRA....	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#44
How about you standing up for, and supporting the VPC and the Brady's.	oneshooter	Feb 2012	#46
Good Advice	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#49
What Is It with You and Brady?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#82
Then how do you account for the following fact?	GreenStormCloud	Feb 2012	#21
Purely coincidental, I'm sure	DonP	Feb 2012	#22
You're missing the point...	ellisonz	Feb 2012	#26
Myth?? LOL!! Take a look at these FACTS:	GreenStormCloud	Feb 2012	#23
I actually tend to agree with you.	benEzra	Feb 2012	#27
Honest answer. n/t	ellisonz	Feb 2012	#32
The NRA could be just anohter cog in the left-wing machine.	Atypical Liberal	Feb 2012	#29
Oh, if its just a myth, then we can expect to stop hearing about the influence of the NRA then?	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#31
Sorry, ch -- pro-restriction supporters get to have it both ways. Those are the rules.	Simo 1939_1940	Feb 2012	#33
Is that like saying......	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#40
Actually, guns don't kill people- unless one believes in animism.	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#50
Right	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#52
in most states	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#53
Do You Support Changing	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#54
if not all states	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#55
Do You Support Laws	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#56
I don't know a state that does	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#57
Would you support laws	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#62
No	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#77
You are right, however you can operate that vehicle outside that bar	oneshooter	Feb 2012	#78
Of Course Not	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#83
Acually you can, simply by driving the car into the bar, Remember you are drunk!	oneshooter	Feb 2012	#84
Yea well....	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#85
What's your over/under on when we get a lecture about the malign influence of the NRA...	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#51
I'd have to see a lot more details (operational definitions and real numbers) before commenting.	aikoaiko	Feb 2012	#42
The question is whether they're perceived to be powerful.	caseymoz	Apr 2012	#108
they vote Republican	gejohnston	Apr 2012	#109
I'll add:	caseymoz	Apr 2012	#111

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