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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
45. children of nra members, safe
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jul 2014

Johnston: Loutish speech are not crimes. false comparison.

I'm not calling for them to be imprisoned, just fired or sanctioned, rather than sit on the nra bd of directors.
Was it the fbi or the secret service which investigated nugent for his 'loutish speech' threatening Obama?

I didn't see any serious violent crimes up there in your list Johnston, like aggravated assault, robbery, murder, arson - except for one for assault with a firearm by melton & a sex assault on a child, for two.
Wow, two or 3 outta thousands, who'd a thunk it? were they democrats as well? and again, how does this redound upon MAIG?

Johnston: Since we are here, how about "children of NRA members should be murdered"?

You LIE. You're twisting about what was said, you intentionally mislead. And where did that link using your very words above come from, since it doesn't appear anywhere in the article, nor really on a google. You're not inserting your words onto a link are you?

.. the guy isn't actually saying that nra member's children should be murdered, he's essentially saying it would be different if nra children were the one's dying, instead of non-nra kids:

Associate professor David Warner Guth, master’s degree in journalism.. tweeted: #NavyYardShooting The blood is on the hands of the #NRA. Next time, let it be YOUR sons and daughters . Shame on you. May God damn you.

Also he said: The blood spilled today is on the hands of the National Rifle Association. I don’t care how the NRA tries to spin this. One fact is undeniable: The NRA has championed a gun culture that is shredding our nation’s moral authority like armor-plated bullets ripping through flesh. Is that imagery too graphic for you? It is no worse than what we are seeing every night on our television screens. Do our citizens have a right to bear arms? Certainly, that’s what the Constitution says. But as it is with every other right enumerated in the Bill of Rights, there are limits. A person’s right to go about his or her job at the Navy Yard – or for that matter to attend an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut – trumps any individual’s right to stockpile weapons of mass destruction in the name of personal freedom. I don’t wish what happened today on anyone. But if it does happen again – and it likely will – may it happen to those misguided miscreants who suggest that today’s death toll at the Navy Yard would have been lower if the employees there were allowed to pack heat. Those fools don’t get it.

Well, he would be a subject matter expert on criminal use of firearms. (nt) blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #1
You mean a former employee who was fired back in April Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #2
He worked there before, during and after the crime friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #3
So do you expect every employer to monitor their employee's activities outside of work? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #5
He wasn't fired immediately after the crime was revealed friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #7
I guess I should rephrase that, we don't know if it was immediate but it did happen shortly after Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #9
"Do you believe all employers should be held liable..." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #38
That is completely false. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #40
orly? The daily google-dump is nothing more than an effort to highlight the misdeeds of one person Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #41
He was still in their employ when he allegedly committed the crimes gejohnston Jul 2014 #4
He was fired. Period. He is no longer an employee, your subject line is false. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #6
Fine. I'll happily stipulate that CeaseFire is no worse than the NRA friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #8
So you see no difference between firing a criminal and re-electing one? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #10
CeaseFire is run by well-meaning ninnies, NRA's board is downright malevolent friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #11
Which criminals are on Everytown's board? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #12
Everytown is Bloomberg and his employee Shannon Watts gejohnston Jul 2014 #13
I don't like everyone on the board, but that does not make them criminals. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #15
some former members of MAIG gejohnston Jul 2014 #17
So former members, but no current members Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #19
their names were removed from the list once they were removed as mayors gejohnston Jul 2014 #24
So now you are a psychic that is predicting 4-5 crimes in the next year Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #25
I said probably based on historical trend gejohnston Jul 2014 #27
There's one crypto-fascist who liked to use his "own private army" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #18
I am no fan of Bloomberg, but what crime has he been charged with? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #20
I just showed you a few he's committed (not that he'll likely be charged with any) friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #23
He was still an employee after the arrest gejohnston Jul 2014 #14
He was fired three months ago shortly after the arrest Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #16
ever hear of the silver rule? gejohnston Jul 2014 #21
So in other words you have no evidence, only innuendo Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #22
That wouldn't make them competent employers would it? gejohnston Jul 2014 #26
I don't know tell me. Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #28
I don't think they were covering for him gejohnston Jul 2014 #29
So you now acknowledge there is no evidence of wrongdoing and they do some good work Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #30
No. gejohnston Jul 2014 #31
So tell me why their hiring practices were questionable? Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #32
perhaps gejohnston Jul 2014 #33
Are you saying they were unaware that he was involved in criminal activities Jenoch Jul 2014 #35
I am saying he had served his time Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #36
I was unaware this was a paid position. Jenoch Jul 2014 #37
Well I suppose we now know the real reason for his opposition to armed individuals. ileus Jul 2014 #34
A concern for occupational safety, it seems... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #39
CF hires a lot of ex offenders jimmy the one Jul 2014 #42
how many are violent offenders out of the 25-30? gejohnston Jul 2014 #43
hoisted on your own petard again jimmy the one Jul 2014 #44
excluding those crimes punishable by imprisonment related to the regulation of business practices gejohnston Jul 2014 #48
children of nra members, safe jimmy the one Jul 2014 #45
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #46
What Nugent said gejohnston Jul 2014 #49
address your misconception like a man jimmy the one Jul 2014 #50
wasn't a misconception at all gejohnston Jul 2014 #55
why can't martha stewart have a gun jimmy the one Jul 2014 #51
key phrase gejohnston Jul 2014 #54
backpedaling jimmy the one Jul 2014 #57
more like mistaken with a different thread gejohnston Jul 2014 #59
the ego's self exoneration jimmy the one Jul 2014 #61
is it my lack of integrity or gejohnston Jul 2014 #62
Criminals LOVE gun control laws... shedevil69taz Jul 2014 #47
you mean criminals hate guncontrol laws jimmy the one Jul 2014 #52
a push jimmy the one Jul 2014 #53
I meant exactly what I said. shedevil69taz Jul 2014 #56
demonstrably untrue jimmy the one Jul 2014 #58
control efforts prevent approx. 30% of criminals or potential criminals from obtaining a gun or comm gejohnston Jul 2014 #60
"This is obviously & demonstrably untrue, criminals are forced to 'obey' when they can't circumvent. beevul Jul 2014 #63
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