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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. I stopped reading at the
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:47 PM
Feb 2012

anti aircraft rifle, which it isn't.

How about unedited videos complete with reporting alleged crimes to the ATF? Then it would be worth reading.

Cue the gun nuts saying "There's no loophole!" baldguy Feb 2012 #1
What loophole do you mean! ellisonz Feb 2012 #2
What loophole? Glassunion Feb 2012 #6
THAT'S THE LOOPHOLE!! baldguy Feb 2012 #9
It's not a "loop-hole". PavePusher Feb 2012 #10
You can bang your head all you want. But perhaps you should Glassunion Feb 2012 #12
Simple solution. ellisonz Feb 2012 #25
See post 21 Glassunion Feb 2012 #26
It appears you think it should be optional... ellisonz Feb 2012 #28
You are wrong to assume how I think. Glassunion Feb 2012 #33
don't fix it if it ain't broken and it ain't broken - Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #40
The system never worked in the first place... ellisonz Feb 2012 #45
City of New York or MAIG gejohnston Feb 2012 #48
Criminals will always find a way. That is their job. They take it serious. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #49
It is entirely possible to make things much more difficult... ellisonz Feb 2012 #77
other westernized countries do not have our constitution. WE need to quit being Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #84
I don't disupte that. ellisonz Feb 2012 #88
"...tremendous failure of bad laws..." ellisonz --- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #91
What I'm saying... ellisonz Feb 2012 #95
oh-kay. words on paper will never stop anything. ---- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #99
The three incidents you write about... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #93
Still can't grasp what "well regulated militia" means can you rl6214 Feb 2012 #104
You seem to have the problem with grasping "well regulated militia." Probably because Hoyt Feb 2012 #129
Why don't you post a link to your writings on the issue? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #136
I'd rather post a link to another's opinion on the issue. Hoyt Feb 2012 #139
"Not Found" typical reference source for gun control enthusiasts DonP Feb 2012 #143
Try link, it is recent. Don't expect those who can't venture without a gun to take me seriously. Hoyt Feb 2012 #160
You keep embracing the losing dissent as if it meant something, we'll take the actual ruling DonP Feb 2012 #164
I'll see your link... tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #186
It's settled law, just not to your liking rl6214 Feb 2012 #165
So settled, that the two cities aren't doing a thing to make it easy for any yahoo to get a gun. Hoyt Feb 2012 #173
Not sure you really want us to go there S_B_Jackson Feb 2012 #182
These decisions are like the Bible, you can use them to support anything you want. Hoyt Feb 2012 #183
The court in Miller, however S_B_Jackson Feb 2012 #192
Canada has online sales gejohnston Feb 2012 #29
My problem is with a country that has lost its damn mind. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #31
Canada has lost its mind is what you are saying there, right? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #92
My future home... ellisonz Feb 2012 #96
you mean if they win the White House, right? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #100
We have heard this from a lot of hopolaphobes oneshooter Feb 2012 #134
What makes you think they'll accept you? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #137
Then you need to get busy getting that law passed. Instead of showing your oneshooter Feb 2012 #34
Com'mon now, you are a bright fellow, pipoman Feb 2012 #66
The Federal Government has tremendous coercive power. ellisonz Feb 2012 #76
Kind of like how the federal government tried to coerce the states into maintaining the 55 speed ? rl6214 Feb 2012 #105
So you wish the Federal government take pipoman Feb 2012 #128
Why would anyone comply voluntarily? ellisonz Feb 2012 #142
To be immune to criminal or civil liability pipoman Feb 2012 #180
I don't doubt that... ellisonz Feb 2012 #190
One other problem. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #80
This investigation was conducted in Phoenix. ellisonz Feb 2012 #83
again? gejohnston Feb 2012 #87
Regulation of int(RA)state commerce... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #89
What you said. So true, so (repeatedly) ignored. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #147
The jurisprudence on this issue is highly debated and nuanced... ellisonz Feb 2012 #156
Wise choice. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #167
No government body in this country has the authority to do that, ellisonz slackmaster Feb 2012 #119
Oh I read the Constitution... ellisonz Feb 2012 #120
That would destroy the value of legitmately owned property. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #168
Not true. ellisonz Feb 2012 #170
Our current system seems to be working pretty good for keeping Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #172
Seriously? tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #184
Okay, pay attention. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #124
Denile ain't just a river in Egypt. RW talking points are never true. baldguy Feb 2012 #126
Jeeezuz pipoman Feb 2012 #131
Right Callisto32 Feb 2012 #177
I reject your ad hominem.... Callisto32 Feb 2012 #178
Not true tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #185
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Skwid Feb 2012 #155
So I should be able to run a NICS check on anybody? krispos42 Feb 2012 #195
Take em to an FFL and you can pay them a little bit to handle it. That simple. Hoyt Feb 2012 #47
Sure Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #169
Like I've said, most members of gun culture don't care who buys their guns. They just want cash, Hoyt Feb 2012 #174
Still maintaining the world *must* be like the part you're personally acquainted with... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #175
I know right. It has been this way for as long as I can remember nt Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #74
Please tell us how one would "take down a helicopter" with a .50 cal bolt or semi-auto rifle. PavePusher Feb 2012 #3
Send an email to NBC. ellisonz Feb 2012 #11
Notice that I didn't say it can't be done. PavePusher Feb 2012 #13
No one said it was easy... ellisonz Feb 2012 #17
.50 cal rifles make great Glassunion Feb 2012 #24
The potential for misuse is extraordinary. ellisonz Feb 2012 #27
I have googled it. Glassunion Feb 2012 #37
Why, it's an epidemic of .50 caliber terror! Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #42
"hundreds of thousands have been sold" ellisonz Feb 2012 #44
FAR more automobiles have been used in murders... Callisto32 Feb 2012 #125
According to the cursed VPC, you are quite mistaken. Lots of crimes with the dang things. Hoyt Feb 2012 #50
"ease"? Or "luck"? Cite, please, I'd be happy to analyze the incidents for you. PavePusher Feb 2012 #52
You suggested... ellisonz Feb 2012 #63
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #68
Nonsense jeepnstein Feb 2012 #127
"Have you ever shot skeet?" He has, by his own admission, oneshooter Feb 2012 #130
Lots of people have never shot a gun -- and that perspective is just as valid as that of someone Hoyt Feb 2012 #132
They get a say alright. jeepnstein Feb 2012 #133
Around here, gun guys think their opinion is all that matters because they know the difference Hoyt Feb 2012 #135
Don't feel *too* put out, Hoyt. I discount lots of other people's opinions, as well. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #138
True enough. jeepnstein Feb 2012 #140
Damn right. ellisonz Feb 2012 #144
Because ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #181
.50 caliber anything is a difficult weapon with which to hit an aircraft... SteveW Feb 2012 #150
So can a .308-caliber. krispos42 Feb 2012 #196
Having majored in Physics... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #35
Having majored in History... ellisonz Feb 2012 #41
there is? gejohnston Feb 2012 #46
How does that follow? If scary-big-guns aren't needed to damage a helicopter, petronius Feb 2012 #51
Because in the words of the recently PPR'd "liberal_biker" ellisonz Feb 2012 #60
A quote from a PPR in a thread that had nothing to do with aircraft, coupled with an petronius Feb 2012 #64
Just saying - there is a standard of "ease" ellisonz Feb 2012 #72
"standard of 'ease'"? Cite that, please. n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #75
Easy. ellisonz Feb 2012 #162
"Unwarranted" was a key word there, Ellison. Reread your comment about scintillas petronius Feb 2012 #79
A little bit hyperbolice perhaps... ellisonz Feb 2012 #81
omg. really. that is not cool at all. was that post allowed to stand? "slapped into them" Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #94
I was off a bit, it was actually "slap upside the head" petronius Feb 2012 #102
lol Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #103
Not me neither, Blitzen - I'm just gonna sit on my corner petronius Feb 2012 #107
serious question: Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #108
yes and hypocritical too gejohnston Feb 2012 #110
well.... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #111
There's a differnce between... ellisonz Feb 2012 #163
Yet another solution looking for a problem. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #151
First I have to tell you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #53
So we agree... ellisonz Feb 2012 #61
No, a .50 does not "make(s) it even easier". PavePusher Feb 2012 #70
Sorry. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #78
Better not tell him... Clames Feb 2012 #85
Agreed. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #86
... ellisonz Feb 2012 #90
thank `you` »» discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #115
So what you're saying is Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #171
That's just what he does. Straw Man Feb 2012 #187
Nice! discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #188
Technical knowledge isn't exclusive to gun owners, ellisonz Feb 2012 #191
Tecnical knowledge of guns is something you have shown very little of. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #199
But the OP is based on the premise that technical knowledge says .50 rifles Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #208
Thanks for letting the point... Clames Feb 2012 #194
A .50 rifle makes it HARDER. GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #148
I think we're generally talking about from a mount... ellisonz Feb 2012 #149
Anything that the owner wants to use it for that isn't illegal is legitimate. GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #159
Yeah no... ellisonz Feb 2012 #161
Those are illegal, and therefore illegitimate. GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #166
Please cite to an instance of any non-active-duty military successfully downing ANY aircraft.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #54
You'll be waiting until the sun burns out for *that* one... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #116
Does majoring in History know impart knowledge of firearms, aircraft and what can be done with both? PavePusher Feb 2012 #55
Yes. Yes it does. ellisonz Feb 2012 #62
Can you recommend some sources? I'd be interested in expanding my knowledge base. n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #71
Da Vinci said... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #189
"The case for making these weapons illegal for civilian use is substantial. " Remmah2 Feb 2012 #145
You could do that with a slingshot and a rock too rl6214 Feb 2012 #106
Clearly... ellisonz Feb 2012 #112
Nope, not familiar with it, what is it? rl6214 Feb 2012 #113
Hilarious. ellisonz Feb 2012 #118
I'll take that bet. Glassunion Feb 2012 #15
You I wouldn't bet a cup of warm spit. PavePusher Feb 2012 #57
pink phlegm? not good, dude. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #97
Check and see if John Nance Garner left some extra in his will. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #153
I stopped reading at the gejohnston Feb 2012 #4
I wouldn't hardly call it a loophole. You can legally buy any weapon from an doc03 Feb 2012 #5
WTF is a "police-grade" pistol? PavePusher Feb 2012 #7
That damn librul media is gonna make you... ellisonz Feb 2012 #14
I was wondering exactly what a police grade Glassunion Feb 2012 #18
Beats me... ellisonz Feb 2012 #20
Agreed... open up NICS Glassunion Feb 2012 #21
video does not lie? gejohnston Feb 2012 #32
And? ellisonz Feb 2012 #36
there is always more to the story gejohnston Feb 2012 #39
Then that seller is really dumb. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #43
MSM would never run stories that contained unfactual, misleading... beevul Feb 2012 #121
Where do you get your news then? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #122
NBC run a fraudulent story? Naw, (NBC pick up truck scandal) DonP Feb 2012 #146
The burden of proof is on you. ellisonz Feb 2012 #152
"video doesn't lie." PavePusher Feb 2012 #58
Contact NBC... ellisonz Feb 2012 #65
Why bother? Just give them the same skepticism James O'Keefe got. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #117
I'm not against making the system work better. krispos42 Feb 2012 #201
Neither am I... ellisonz Feb 2012 #203
The difference is.... krispos42 Feb 2012 #204
You personally, no... ellisonz Feb 2012 #205
I saw the piece on MSNBC krispos42 Feb 2012 #207
Do you really want to know? A "Police Grade" pistol? jeepnstein Feb 2012 #141
"... our buyers paid cash for a tactical assault rifle modified to use bullets for an AK-47..." PavePusher Feb 2012 #8
They bought a black Remington 700 Glassunion Feb 2012 #19
Basically, that means... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #23
But didn't NBC say they used a burf Feb 2012 #123
someone modified it to shoot a less powerful round? ileus Feb 2012 #59
Right! One of those non lethal rounds. Damn sissies! Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #69
Yeah, somebody claimed that... somewhere... PavePusher Feb 2012 #73
Probably one of the most pointless... Clames Feb 2012 #16
Just a few observations. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #22
I tried the link for the future programing recommendations. burf Feb 2012 #30
re:"...my post seemed to get lost in the blogosphere." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #38
lol Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #98
thank you discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #114
The innerweb loopholz! Blood.....blood in da stwetz! ileus Feb 2012 #56
Thugs of Amerika luvs them some GOP/NRA douchebaggery jpak Feb 2012 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #109
"Thugs of America luvs them" gun-control laws. Guess why. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #154
Here's a question. Clames Feb 2012 #82
The gun-controller/prohibitionists have had many chances to discuss this... SteveW Feb 2012 #157
My point is... Clames Feb 2012 #179
Well, that was one of the points in our discussion years ago... SteveW Feb 2012 #209
".......but are much more focused on "gun shows" because of their public nature, Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #210
Enforcement of this ,non existant, "loophole" Oneka Feb 2012 #193
You mean private face to face sales? What loophole? Got nothing to do with gun control. rl6214 Feb 2012 #101
One can bring down an aircraft with a Red Ryder BB gun if he's a good shot. Skwid Feb 2012 #158
Did anyone ever mention the last time a 50 cal was used in a crime? ileus Feb 2012 #176
Oh, I bet it wasn't uncommon back in the '70s and '80s... krispos42 Feb 2012 #206
Well...if you count shotgun slugs... Clames Feb 2012 #211
The most important question when buying a gun?? Remmah2 Feb 2012 #197
The domain 50caliberterror.com seems to be available. It could be bought, you know. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #198
It's classified advertising online, not an e-commerce setup. krispos42 Feb 2012 #200
Even with the help of hysterical media reports like this, the gun restrictionists are still losing. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #202
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