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Gun Control & RKBA

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Kaleva

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Tue Oct 1, 2013, 08:22 AM Oct 2013

Guns for home/self defense and the PA family bloodbath [View all]

In the news there was family shootout where the mother who answered the door was shot dead by her estranged daughter. A son at the home who police thought was trying to get a gun was shot dead by his brother-in-law. The father was able to get a handgun from the bedroom and first shot his daughter and then shot and killed his son-in-law.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-daughter-killed-pa-mom-shotgun-20413497

Something I've talked about before and do wonder what other members here think is that, IMO, if one believes that they need a gun for home/self defense, they ought to have that gun on their person or within easy reach at all times.

The mother probably had no chance even if she was armed but the son might have had he been so. The father was able to get to the bedroom to get his gun and save himself but he may have been able to save his son also had he been armed.

Years ago I read an article written by a retired LAPD homicide detective who said he kept his side arm on his person or within easy reach at all times. Even when taking a shower, the holstered gun was on a belt hanging on a hook just outside the shower door.

This would make a long gun as the primary weapon impractical. If I ever thought I needed a gun for home/self defense, I'd then go for a handgun and one small enough to be comfortable to have on my person all day long.

Do wonder if other DUers who have a gun for protection keep such on their person or within easy reach at all times?

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You hear a story like this and must wonder Loudly Oct 2013 #1
I guess you feel all guns should be banned SoutherDem Oct 2013 #3
Just do a search for posts by Sharesunited rl6214 Oct 2013 #18
because this specific type of incident is quite rare bossy22 Oct 2013 #4
Wonder all you want. You're not in charge. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #7
thank the stars above. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2013 #10
x2 n/t AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #26
so you would prefer they be kept private? Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2013 #11
Law enforcement until they are no longer at risk of getting shot. n/t Loudly Oct 2013 #12
Because some find them the best tools for problem solving. Starboard Tack Oct 2013 #14
you don't grasp the difference between gejohnston Oct 2013 #17
If you have a problem that requires it, no other tool will suffice. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #20
Developing improvisational skills trumps any particular tool. Starboard Tack Oct 2013 #22
Proper planning by having the needed tools negates the need ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #23
It also allows a greater range of possible responses, perhaps eliminating the need to use it. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #24
Proper planning for what? A professional hit? Starboard Tack Oct 2013 #41
You have the right idea. ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #44
Some situations don't allow for a range of responses. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #25
our analogy demonstrates the absurdity of your argument. Starboard Tack Oct 2013 #42
I do, but I accept the risk. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #43
OK, you accept the risk of flying without a chute Starboard Tack Oct 2013 #45
The risks across both categories is not equal. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #46
True that. Chutes don't kill people, gravity does. Starboard Tack Oct 2013 #47
Gravity doesn't kill, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #48
Deceleration trauma sucks. ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #49
That it does. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #50
Now that you brought it up SoutherDem Oct 2013 #2
It's finding the right balance Lurks Often Oct 2013 #5
Tragedies like this don't happen in some vacuum. jeepnstein Oct 2013 #6
One can always find flaws in a SD scheme, but when home... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #8
Never answer your door at night without your HD firearm. ileus Oct 2013 #9
"I normally wait until the house gets quiet at night before I get out the 45." Starboard Tack Oct 2013 #13
My situation: Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #15
I recently found out that a neighbor lady handles her gun pretty much the same as you do. Kaleva Oct 2013 #16
I've seen a picture floating around the inter-tubes... krispos42 Oct 2013 #19
I keep a suppressed SBR in 300 BLK SQUEE Oct 2013 #21
Just another responsible gun owners. SheilaT Oct 2013 #27
+ about a million. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #28
Since the OP link doesn't seem to work... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #29
What horrifies me is that so many here SheilaT Oct 2013 #30
But you feel no empathy with those killed by automobiles. oneshooter Oct 2013 #31
Let's see, automobiles are not specifically designed to kill living things. SheilaT Oct 2013 #33
And yet those killed by automobiles are just as dead... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2013 #34
Oh, gosh. That's a comfort. SheilaT Oct 2013 #35
Death is not something to take lightly... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #37
you realize of course, gejohnston Oct 2013 #38
Your theory does not seem to apply in this case. Jenoch Oct 2013 #32
I just love the way the gun apologists SheilaT Oct 2013 #36
Actually, yes gejohnston Oct 2013 #39
Go back and re-read my post. Jenoch Oct 2013 #40
Actually, they've been restricting, and considering banning pointy knives in the UK for some time. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #52
Must you shit on the victims too? AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #51
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