Gun Control & RKBA

jeepnstein

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39. Last pistol I bought it took a couple of days.

Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:51 PM

Jul 2013

I did the 4473, they made the call, and then the gunsmith from the back swooped in and grabbed the pistol from the counter. He said I could have it back when he said it was "ready". It was Colt Perfection when he called me to come and get it.

I don't understand everyone's fascination with how fast you can complete a transaction. With modern technology it shouldn't take more than a few minutes. What would be really nice would be if the NICS database had all the data it needs to be accurate and in full compliance with the law.

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I went through the background check process last night. It took over an hour. [View all] geckosfeet Jul 2013 OP

A whole hour to purchase a lethal weapon BainsBane Jul 2013 #1

Zooom. You are right on schedule Alice. I am not advocating letting criminals have easy access. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #3

I think the point is that both are legal Just Saying Jul 2013 #32

What makes you think that I am not. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #44

Oh I see. Just Saying Jul 2013 #45

That's complete BS BainsBane Jul 2013 #72

You should be pro-choice, not anti-choice ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #77

Try rereading my post BainsBane Jul 2013 #78

Pro-choice is not limited to one subject ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #80

Where in my post does it say I oppose your choice to have a gun? BainsBane Jul 2013 #85

Take a look at your journal and posts ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #87

Oh, you mean the right to murder an unarmed black teenager? BainsBane Jul 2013 #89

I fully support your right to ridicule those that express unreasonable fear. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #91

No, I mean the right to defend oneself ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #94

Complete bullshit BainsBane Jul 2013 #96

what NRA lie on Mexico? gejohnston Jul 2013 #97

The one I systematically went through with you and Green Storm Cloud BainsBane Jul 2013 #100

in other words, gejohnston Jul 2013 #103

24% is a very large statistical sampling by any measure BainsBane Jul 2013 #105

I actually did gejohnston Jul 2013 #107

That's not an explanation BainsBane Jul 2013 #112

I listed those one specifically because gejohnston Jul 2013 #115

It's not a question of distorting, deliberately skewing, or falsifying - I don't see where petronius Jul 2013 #119

Ahem- the Mexican government only submitted 24% of seized guns for tracing. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #110

Show us the rates of homicide and gun ownership in those countries, then. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #98

Wow BainsBane Jul 2013 #101

I expect *anyone* who makes a claim to be able to back it up- even you. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #108

If you won't provide links, what you offer is opinion, not an argument friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #109

I provided and cites ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #120

Just for you in your own words CokeMachine Jul 2013 #99

Yet here you are, posting away under no coercion to do so... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #111

Actually, none of those are from the NRA ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #117

True, but the NRA makes a convenient boogeyman... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #118

I tend to agree with you. Just Saying Jul 2013 #79

Whats complete BS is your characterizations. beevul Jul 2013 #81

Yes, it truly is a horror that I exercise my right to free speech BainsBane Jul 2013 #86

I"m sorry, was someone attacking your rights? beevul Jul 2013 #92

+1000 -- CokeMachine Jul 2013 #93

Actually, some of those who are frustrated with the private ownership of guns oppose women owning AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #51

I agree, way too long to buy a gun ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #7

In Nevada, premium Jul 2013 #14

With a Texas CHL it's even faster. oneshooter Jul 2013 #95

I'd argue you'd have to account for all the time it takes waiting for that CHL to arrive anomiep Jul 2013 #121

You got a few items wrong. oneshooter Jul 2013 #122

Not really anomiep Jul 2013 #123

Hmmm. Maybe New Mexico. Possibly Arizona. But the way things are right now geckosfeet Jul 2013 #46

That's probably longer than what it takes to buy a gun in a Chicago neighborhood -- from one AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #52

but Texas has a far higher crime rate CreekDog Jul 2013 #65

Except that Texas doesn't have a higher crime rate ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #66

Hey, Wyoming with its 60-70 percent gun ownership rate gejohnston Jul 2013 #67

I considered adding DC ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #68

Not to mention #49 Vermont, with it's damn near non-existent state gun laws. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #90

Quit it!! CokeMachine Jul 2013 #69

Exactly... the last two times I purchased a car (using cash--no loans) it took more than 3 hours hlthe2b Jul 2013 #11

Wow, premium Jul 2013 #13

She missed the 10¢ cigar, though. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #15

LOL. nt. premium Jul 2013 #16

So then. since this delay is okay... krispos42 Jul 2013 #33

I could go to the convenience store and buy a "lethal weapon" in about 30 seconds. Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #35

What a load of crap ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #76

One hour isnt bad at all. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #2

Where is here? I know in California there is a ten day waiting period. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #4

FL. but i think it varries by county as well, and if one has ccw or not darkangel218 Jul 2013 #40

three business days gejohnston Jul 2013 #71

The cooling off period is a fallicy. ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #70

Interesting. Sources? Is that gun crime or overall crime rate? geckosfeet Jul 2013 #73

Source ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #74

Although I am familiar witht the cited source, links are helpful and courteous. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #75

I haven't bought one since the ban drums have been pounded ileus Jul 2013 #5

Pre-ban drums the time was about the same here. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #6

the fact that you showed an intent and a desire to purchase a weapon bowens43 Jul 2013 #8

Why, is it not legal? Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #10

Saw that movie discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #17

"That don't make no sense" geckosfeet Jul 2013 #20

Unacceptable discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #26

I have the number of a good therapist. She is really good with control issues. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #29

On a related note discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #41

Oh yeah. The clock starts when they answer the phone. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #42

That time frame was about my experience also for a shotgun. Revolver was several days. nt bike man Jul 2013 #9

Generally about 15 minutes or so Lurks Often Jul 2013 #12

Takes about 20 min here in CA but you still have a 10 day wait to pick up the firearm tularetom Jul 2013 #18

1911? geckosfeet Jul 2013 #27

No, a single action army 1873 revolver tularetom Jul 2013 #59

Oh my. That a beauty. Caliber? Ammo type? geckosfeet Jul 2013 #60

This particular gun is .45 Long Colt tularetom Jul 2013 #62

As long as you load your own, or get someone to load to your spec geckosfeet Jul 2013 #63

About 15 to 20 minutes in Illinois DonP Jul 2013 #19

There was a sign in the shop i bought at that said geckosfeet Jul 2013 #21

They have the same signs up here too along with the ubiquitous "Don't Lie for the other Guy" posters DonP Jul 2013 #49

Wow. What a scam... Crooks are nothing if not inventive geckosfeet Jul 2013 #50

It has been Jenoch Jul 2013 #22

I provided a link to a pdf of the form. Question 9 asks for some geckosfeet Jul 2013 #23

I looked at the form. Jenoch Jul 2013 #24

Yes. Exactly. The clerk said to just leave it blank. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #25

The instructions for question #9 CokeMachine Jul 2013 #37

Ahhhh. thanks. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #47

Question #9 SoutherDem Jul 2013 #55

Thanks. fot the explanation. My first application failed because I used an incorrect number. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #56

Found this over on AR15.com MicaelS Jul 2013 #28

I only get denied when I make mistake on the form. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #34

Doesn't seem unreasonable. Just Saying Jul 2013 #30

Every purchase of a new gun from an ffl. Private sales just need the state transfer form. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #38

Frankly alot of private sales use an FFL dealer wercal Jul 2013 #104

Good thoughts. Help support your local ffl as well. Here we just need to geckosfeet Jul 2013 #114

Presently in KS I am required to do nothing wercal Jul 2013 #116

Reasonable. Straw Man Jul 2013 #64

I would guess I never waited more that 5 minutes at the most. When I applied for my concealed doc03 Jul 2013 #31

State? I waited about six weeks for my license. I hear it's worse now, depending on the town. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #53

Ohio, I hear it takes about a week for the doc03 Jul 2013 #61

I can't remember how long it took in Utah, but I'd guess it was less than 20 minutes. nt Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #36

Last pistol I bought it took a couple of days. jeepnstein Jul 2013 #39

Good point. If you know the 4473 you can buzz thru it. I don't know the form that well geckosfeet Jul 2013 #48

I wonder if the 'Permit to Purchase' system we have in Minnesota would speed things up? Jenoch Jul 2013 #43

In Alabama it is about the same SoutherDem Jul 2013 #54

Once I fill out the 4473 it normally takes about 20 minutes rl6214 Jul 2013 #57

Me too. It still takes a while here. We do a state transfer and the federal. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #58

Takes me about five minutes ..... oldhippie Jul 2013 #82

Go ahead. Rub it in some more. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #83

Got a bunch down here already ..... oldhippie Jul 2013 #84

Ha ha. Good one. Maybe I'll join you down there someday. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #88

I've bought two in Kansas this year wercal Jul 2013 #102

this same OP was posted a couple months ago sigmasix Jul 2013 #106

Please provide a link to the op you are citing. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #113