Gun Control & RKBA

Decoy of Fenris

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Wed Jul 3, 2013, 12:42 PM

Jul 2013

Militia Act of 1903, which became known as the Dick Act. This law repealed the Militia Acts of 1792 and organized the militia into two groups: the Reserve Militia, which included all able-bodied men between 18 and 45, and the Organized Militia, which included state militia (National Guard) units receiving federal support.

This law, to my knowledge, is still on the books, and clearly separates federally funded militia from the reserve militia.

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The militia [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 OP

You're wrong on your definition of the militia. rdharma Jul 2013 #1

I didn't give one discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #4

Done: Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #6

Count me OUT HockeyMom Jul 2013 #2

Thanks for voting discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #5

That's what I was just wondering rl6214 Jul 2013 #76

Skewed poll ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #3

I'm asking mostly... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #7

Except ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #9

That would be: The Second Amendment exists solely as a restriction on the federal government Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #10

McDonald applies incorporation discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #15

After a brief fresher, point granted, and my prior post rescinded. Thank you for the education. nt Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #16

Your prior post... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #20

Which is a moot point ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #94

Quite true discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #11

OK ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #58

SCOTUS has also ruled that corporations are people ..... rdharma Jul 2013 #12

Which, for the purpose of law ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #54

...and made a fairly good decision on gay marriage. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #90

Yes, SCOTUS has so ruled. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #103

That's why the teabaggers need to be removed from the SCOTUS! rdharma Jul 2013 #105

It is an individual right, but the poll goes to the militia responsibility of the government. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #89

That first option is interesting. rrneck Jul 2013 #8

With no limits, eh? nt rdharma Jul 2013 #13

Be careful what you wish for. Reinterpretation doesn't mean "How I want it." :) n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #14

With Roberts, Thomas, Scalia, Alito, and Kennedy ...... rdharma Jul 2013 #17

Like I said. Be careful what you wish for. Try to reinterpret at your own risk. nt Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #18

It could happen. rrneck Jul 2013 #24

I favor leaving the Second as it is discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #70

Show me where women are defined as part of the unorganized militia. rdharma Jul 2013 #19

By the thinking of the Founders... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #21

Fair enough. I agree. rdharma Jul 2013 #23

Well, Grace Hopper... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #34

Not part of the "militia" rdharma Jul 2013 #60

Might want to check those articles I linked earlier. You'll find out how often you're wrong. :) Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #61

No. I think I'll let you tell me about the standing/active duty professional military........ rdharma Jul 2013 #62

10 USC § 311 again: Inclusive of active military. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #64

Wrong! Direct quote from 10 USC § 311 rdharma Jul 2013 #65

"Are you a member of the National Guard or the Naval militia? No? Unorganized militia." Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #67

Wrong, wrong, wrong, ...... rdharma Jul 2013 #69

Wrong, wrong, wrong, ...... Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #71

Keep diggin'! rdharma Jul 2013 #72

Yup. No answer, no response of note? Checkmate. Enjoy your day, kid. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #73

You tipped your king, eh! rdharma Jul 2013 #74

Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #66

10 USC § 311 supplemented by 32 USC § 313 Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #22

No, not ALL under age 64......... rdharma Jul 2013 #27

No, because he's 64. And I never said "All", either; just that it is allowed. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #28

Also, 32 USC § 323 supplementing USC § 311 and Title 10 as a whole. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #25

Would Karl Rove be considered part of the militia? rdharma Jul 2013 #29

No to either of the above. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #31

I'd vote no if asked. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #37

Several states ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #59

the current militia is out there letting its kids kill each other with guns nt msongs Jul 2013 #26

And many of them are under age 17. nt rdharma Jul 2013 #30

Good thing laws stop them from owning guns. Otherwise, they'd kill someo... Oh. Nevermind. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #33

Good thing we don't have laws in place that could stop or make it harder for them to acquire guns. rdharma Jul 2013 #35

Good thing we already have 271 federal laws in place to do just that. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #36

Of which you are one, acording to some folks around here. oneshooter Jul 2013 #57

Stop letting kids kill other kids with -anything-. There's a thought. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #32

Heck! He looked over 18 to me! rdharma Jul 2013 #38

And at no point is "The gun" at fault in that scenario. Thank you for pointing that out. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #40

Who said it was? rdharma Jul 2013 #41

But you're wrong. That's the point. Your entire premise, and execution of analogy, are incorrect. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #44

A short excursion into search engine land... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #42

Ever heard the term... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #39

You talkin' to me? rdharma Jul 2013 #43

Actually, he was talking to me since non-gun-related deaths are not an issue for the Controllers. nt Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #45

Sorry! I didn't mean to induce a "gun lover sad"! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #47

I'm always sad for the deaths of children, regardless of cause. Aren't you? Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #51

Actually... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #46

But did you like the Travis Bickle vid clip? nt rdharma Jul 2013 #48

Whoops! Wrong post. Sorry! Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #49

Don't worry! I won't hold your keyboard responsible! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #52

Nope, just good old fashioned clicking the wrong reply button. Only human. :P Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #53

Sure discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #50

I think George Zimmerman liked him too! rdharma Jul 2013 #55

No one's born a 'Travis'.... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #96

And some grow into George Zimmermans! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #97

To quote Donald Sutherland... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #98

Exercise a bit of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #68

Letting? rl6214 Jul 2013 #77

The Constitutional Militia of the several States no longer exist, and the jmg257 Jul 2013 #56

Should there be a militia? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #84

Nope...no need. The people decided a long time ago jmg257 Jul 2013 #87

It may be your opinion that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #88

Im OK with the way things are. While I would have no problem jmg257 Jul 2013 #91

IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #92

But how effective? I guess it depends on how its organized /regulated. Nt jmg257 Jul 2013 #93

organized into the unorganized jimmy the one Jul 2013 #63

perhaps a better phrasing is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #85

How was Hockeymom able to vote twice rl6214 Jul 2013 #75

Possibly... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #81

Does any other country have a right to own guns in their upaloopa Jul 2013 #78

Origionally, Mexico did gejohnston Jul 2013 #80

Responses: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #82

there is no RKBA except in the context of a WELL REGULATED militia bowens43 Jul 2013 #79

Thanks for your vote. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #83

Both the president and the Democratic party platform disagree with you. hack89 Jul 2013 #86

Both the law and the basic principles of linguistics disagree. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #99

That horse is very dead. You can quite beating it. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #104

unorganized force pool jimmy the one Jul 2013 #95

What a sad commentary... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #100

sad commentary boomerangs jimmy the one Jul 2013 #101

yeah; whatever discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #102