Gun Control & RKBA

ZombieHorde

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71. Thanks for the video.

Wed Apr 3, 2013, 02:23 AM

Apr 2013

I am glad there is some reason other than just appearance, but I am still not persuaded toward the pistol grip ban. Limiting magazine size and improving background checks are two policies I currently support.

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What is argument against certain grips for some rifles? [View all] ZombieHorde Apr 2013 OP

When you grip a gun in a certain way Bay Boy Apr 2013 #1

Okay, that's a new one. rrneck Apr 2013 #4

"You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #10

Damn I love that scene. ntt rrneck Apr 2013 #11

Because they Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #2

They look "military". rrneck Apr 2013 #3

They make the rifle easier to aim hack89 Apr 2013 #5

Point taken daybranch Apr 2013 #22

So your thesis is that if guns didn't look Rambo, white supremists and nut cases wouldn't bother? iiibbb Apr 2013 #25

No, the rapid fire combined with large magazines Warpy Apr 2013 #6

I think I understand the arguments concerning ROF and magazine size, ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #7

Yet nobody is proposing banning semi-automatic rifles as a class. krispos42 Apr 2013 #15

I know, they all seem to be missing the point Warpy Apr 2013 #16

*shrug* krispos42 Apr 2013 #23

"unable or unwilling to tackle the really big issue" ^^^ Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #59

The rate of fire armueller2001 Apr 2013 #53

No, ban semi autos. Warpy Apr 2013 #55

Good luck with that endeavor armueller2001 Apr 2013 #58

Stock/grip design does have a large effect on efficacy. DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #8

I don't think as much as you think. krispos42 Apr 2013 #35

I was thinking about larger calibre... DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #54

Pistol grips are the most evil of evil features. ileus Apr 2013 #9

And where, on this spectrum of evil... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #65

I don't ever hear gun control advocates talk about grips Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #12

So you are calling for a ban of all semi-automatic weapons? Rifles and handguns? hack89 Apr 2013 #13

Yes, that is what I think needs to happen Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #14

Not true daybranch Apr 2013 #18

I guess you have forgotten about Va Tech. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #27

Yes, you do, actually krispos42 Apr 2013 #20

No I don't actually Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #24

The point is that they are all the same gun. krispos42 Apr 2013 #32

Thanks, I will agree that much of the current assault weapons ban is poorly written Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #44

I've been saying for a few months now.... krispos42 Apr 2013 #57

You can read about it sarisataka Apr 2013 #21

You may be able to find examples of gun control advocates talking about grips... Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #26

With the two top gun control groups sarisataka Apr 2013 #29

A couple of brief mentions among a list of other features hardly makes it a major point Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #31

There are three kinds of guns. rrneck Apr 2013 #28

You need to add "manual repeater" to the list krispos42 Apr 2013 #33

Those are covered under No. 2 rrneck Apr 2013 #34

Mmmmm... I guess so krispos42 Apr 2013 #37

If you're looking down the wrong end of one it don't matter. rrneck Apr 2013 #40

Probably already on the drafting board. krispos42 Apr 2013 #43

Yep. Can't outrun technology. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #46

Already exists. Straw Man Apr 2013 #50

I used to have a 700 BDL ( I believe it was called) rrneck Apr 2013 #51

*blink* krispos42 Apr 2013 #56

You mean like these? oneshooter Apr 2013 #48

There y'go. Probably been tooled up for it for years. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #49

I would order it this way. iiibbb Apr 2013 #63

I would break it down further. Straw Man Apr 2013 #66

So people will adapt... immoderate Apr 2013 #39

A pistol grip is a defining characteristic of "assault weapons" in the expired federal AW ban and... slackmaster Apr 2013 #61

"I don't ever hear gun control advocates talk about grips" ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #72

John Q. Public doesn't deserve any ergonomic designs. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #17

Ergonomics sylvi Apr 2013 #19

Good point. Some folks like the old Ithaca Model 37 pump shotgun... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #62

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #30

That brings up an obvious question- How much time have *you* wasted here... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #36

Not as much as you have...eom Kolesar Apr 2013 #38

Why not go back to your clubhouse and enjoy the echo? DonP Apr 2013 #41

But it's *fun* sniffing out heresy! And real-world politics is difficult, after all. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #45

Perhaps- but I also spend more time practicing realpolitik and less on culture war. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #42

29,000 posts say differently. nt Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #52

It comes down to appearance -- pistol grips don't look "sporting" kudzu22 Apr 2013 #47

It's all about style slackmaster Apr 2013 #60

It's purely emotional. jeepnstein Apr 2013 #64

A pistol grip allows the gunman to fire from the hip, as is typically done in combat mwrguy Apr 2013 #67

funny, they didn't teach us that in basic training gejohnston Apr 2013 #68

IMHO, having a pistol grip... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #69

I really don't believe that the poster has any military experence. oneshooter Apr 2013 #77

It is safe to say that ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #70

You know more about assault weapons than the director of the ATF? mwrguy Apr 2013 #73

Sadly, it would appear so, at least in this one fact. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #74

Absolutely madville Apr 2013 #75

Show me the army training manual kudzu22 Apr 2013 #78

Thanks for the video. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #71

Any semiautomatic long gun can be fired from the hip krispos42 Apr 2013 #76