Gun Control & RKBA

rdharma

(6,057 posts) Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:09 PM Mar 2013

More guns make the world safer (illustrated in a photo) [View all]

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More guns make the world safer (illustrated in a photo) [View all] rdharma Mar 2013 OP

You don't understand the purpose of arming teachers. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #1

Re: Teachers rdharma Mar 2013 #2

I they are armed, they can shoot the rampager. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #3

And if they get shot first? MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #10

How does the rampager know which ones to shoot? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #13

theyll get shot anyway n/t av8r1998 Mar 2013 #15

They should send a few unguided missiles flying that might hit the wrong target/s? rdharma Mar 2013 #42

Apparently CokeMachine Mar 2013 #68

How long did it take to subdue Hinkley? holdencaufield Mar 2013 #4

Except no shots were fired at Hinckley. thucythucy Mar 2013 #6

"highly trained security professionals" holdencaufield Mar 2013 #7

How well did that work at Columbine? thucythucy Mar 2013 #9

The armed guard wasn't there. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #11

Hmm...I wonder if keeping the Rampager from having a gun would jmg257 Mar 2013 #24

How do you propose to do that? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #29

I don't. But lesser laws will make it harder for him to have access from the usual jmg257 Mar 2013 #30

With months to plan, he will get whatever he wants. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #31

Nope not at all. Just one who believes jmg257 Mar 2013 #33

how will it make it hard for illegal gun owners to get them? gejohnston Mar 2013 #34

If numbers are true, and 40% of illegally used guns were stolen from jmg257 Mar 2013 #35

I doubt the numbers are true gejohnston Mar 2013 #37

Thanks...16% stolen...any info on the rest? nt jmg257 Mar 2013 #45

that was the claim that are private sales gejohnston Mar 2013 #46

How do you reconcile that with the nationwide official policy... beevul Mar 2013 #55

I don't. The point would be to handle 'when someone bad jmg257 Mar 2013 #84

Hardly the best possible solution? Its THE default solution. beevul Mar 2013 #95

Of course its the default solution, cause selfish attitudes of SO many gun jmg257 Mar 2013 #96

Arrogance, ignorance, and narcissism, all packed into one reply. beevul Mar 2013 #97

I know I know gun owners are SO deprived. But quite obviously not nearly enough. jmg257 Mar 2013 #98

The only one that is saying "deprived" is you. beevul Mar 2013 #99

'Deprived' is fine...cause of all gun owners have given and will give up. jmg257 Mar 2013 #100

LOL. beevul Mar 2013 #102

Whether they are 'my business' is really unimportant. jmg257 Mar 2013 #104

And finally, we get to where the rubber meets the road. beevul Mar 2013 #105

Agree with much you have said here...I would have no interest in controlling arms jmg257 Mar 2013 #116

His gun was empty. Straw Man Mar 2013 #66

What's the matter? holdencaufield Mar 2013 #5

he's deluding himself with happy fantasies.... lastlib Mar 2013 #39

More than that, an armed presence is a deterent against going on the rampage in the first place. bubbayugga Mar 2013 #80

I wonder if teachers could have handled it better....... rdharma Mar 2013 #8

You can't have several SS agents are every school. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #12

Active shooter! rdharma Mar 2013 #14

Sometimes unarmed people get lucky. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #18

More likely that they'll just cause more confusion and collateral damage. nt rdharma Mar 2013 #19

Who do you mean by "they"? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #21

You're getting silly, GSC! nt rdharma Mar 2013 #22

You used a pronoun without an antecedent. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #25

we are not talking about NYPD with 12 pound triggers gejohnston Mar 2013 #23

No...... we're talking about scared teachers with very limited training. rdharma Mar 2013 #36

I noticed that none of the "chat shows" had experts on the subject knocking the idea, gejohnston Mar 2013 #38

I know a teacher ... Straw Man Mar 2013 #67

So allowing a rampager to continue shooting, unopposed is better? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #82

Isn't 'ol Lippshitz the one who left her gatt on the back of the shitter? nt jmg257 Mar 2013 #26

depends on who trains the teachers gejohnston Mar 2013 #16

Hopefully without all those NDs! nt jmg257 Mar 2013 #27

just don't have DEA train them gejohnston Mar 2013 #32

We don't pay them enough to be TEACHERS! lastlib Mar 2013 #41

not training them to be cops either gejohnston Mar 2013 #43

until one of the kids is accidentally shot by a teacher or support staff. Its just a matter of time putitinD Mar 2013 #58

there is a greater chance of gejohnston Mar 2013 #60

Nope, your dead wrong, accidents happen all the time, guns go off unintentally, I work in a school putitinD Mar 2013 #63

I never said teachers gejohnston Mar 2013 #70

how about breaking up a scuffle in the hallways, this happens EVERYDAY in my school, putitinD Mar 2013 #72

That's why av8r1998 Mar 2013 #81

So your solution is to do nothing. N/T GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #83

no, my solution is to stop the killers from getting the damn guns to begin with. lastlib Mar 2013 #85

Try living in the real world. You aren't going to get your fantasy. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #86

It may be fantasy due to the NRA's money, but it's..... lastlib Mar 2013 #115

Sounds like you'd be right at home sylvi Mar 2013 #90

You mean like Britain, France, Australia etc? lastlib Mar 2013 #91

Their gun ownership rate is higher than you think gejohnston Mar 2013 #92

They hang people in the town square sylvi Mar 2013 #94

So all guns? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #93

"Thereafter, if you have one, you hang in the town square. Simple as that." Ghost in the Machine Mar 2013 #117

I don't know about making the world safer, but they do even up the odds ileus Mar 2013 #17

Security blankets..... rdharma Mar 2013 #20

I want my binkie! Its in the constitution, don't ya know? Nt jmg257 Mar 2013 #28

In an outdoor, crowded urban environment like that sylvi Mar 2013 #40

Hinkley had a damn 6 shot .22 revolver! nt rdharma Mar 2013 #44

No shit, Sherlock sylvi Mar 2013 #47

Effectiveness? rdharma Mar 2013 #48

A helluva lot more than just leaving them defenseless sylvi Mar 2013 #49

Gee? What could possibly go wrong with that scenario? rdharma Mar 2013 #50

You mean, worse han an unchallenged and unfettered mass shooter sylvi Mar 2013 #51

An unfettered mass shooter.... with the SRO's gun?!!! nt rdharma Mar 2013 #52

what happened to the "trained professional police officer" meme? gejohnston Mar 2013 #54

Trained Professional? rdharma Mar 2013 #56

so you support augmentees and or back up? gejohnston Mar 2013 #62

Ever hear of the "Liberator" pistol? rdharma Mar 2013 #65

Yes, and you get to "close range" by stealth. Straw Man Mar 2013 #71

It would probably be a student in the hallway. nt rdharma Mar 2013 #75

So we shouldn't have cops in schools ... Straw Man Mar 2013 #78

Please promiseme you'll never run for school board member...anywhere sylvi Mar 2013 #57

since SROs have been around for a long time gejohnston Mar 2013 #53

"probability of anything going wrong is almost nonexistent" rdharma Mar 2013 #59

he wasn't there gejohnston Mar 2013 #61

So, it doesn't count! rdharma Mar 2013 #64

Barbara Boxer has a plan... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #69

National Guard in Schools? rdharma Mar 2013 #73

Yes, puhlease! Straw Man Mar 2013 #74

"piece of cake, do it every day" rdharma Mar 2013 #76

Perhaps you missed ... Straw Man Mar 2013 #77

"And if the SRO is in the bathroom?" sylvi Mar 2013 #79

Are you saying Presidential security is not necessary? Remmah2 Mar 2013 #87

Are you throwing out another "strawman"? rdharma Mar 2013 #88

Do you mean that Obama's Secret Service detail shouldn't have guns? Carnage251 Mar 2013 #101

obviously guns don't deter shit so the police & the secret service might as well give theirs up too bubbayugga Mar 2013 #89

Are you arguing that the SS should not be armed? aikoaiko Mar 2013 #103

When in doubt..... whip out the strawman! rdharma Mar 2013 #106

It was a snarky question and not a strawman. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #111

Imagine if Hinckley had a 100 bullet magazine on his AR15? Paul Alan Mar 2013 #107

he would not have gotten close enough gejohnston Mar 2013 #109

Sociopaths seem to study the element of "surprise" Paul Alan Mar 2013 #110

actually they were gejohnston Mar 2013 #112

So your argument is that the President would be safer if the Secret Service were not armed? kudzu22 Mar 2013 #108

Seems like strawmen are very popular with you guys! rdharma Mar 2013 #113

My apologies if you meant that guns would make schools safer kudzu22 Mar 2013 #114