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Response to gejohnston (Reply #12)
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:42 PM
jimmy the one (1,770 posts)
13. I was quoting your link
johnston: Bloomberg supported Scott Brown because of Wall Street regulations.
Well I dunno really, I was just going by the link YOU provided, which said this: Mr. Bloomberg, through a spokesman, said his endorsement was not about Wall Street at all, but about his desire to reward Mr. Brown for voting against his party and the National Rifle Association on a gun control measure.
So it appears a he said/he said, johnstons word vs bloombergs (as I said I dunno, bloomy could be playing coy; we might never know, sniff).
johnston: 1 One of Bloomberg's propaganda mailers in California falsely claimed that the candidate "supported convicted sex offenders and felons getting CCWs"
2 Since rape is a common sex offense, it is violent so is armed robbery. That made the claim false.
.. so that's it? you & the gun lobby pounce on semantics; the gun lobby apparently twisted what was written to the extreme case, the 'gunnut way'.
.. most sex offenses are misdemeanors not felonies, which rape is. Lumping in violent ex cons & felons is again exploiting the wording & does not disprove what the ad claimed, except when interpreted to the extreme absolute. As often as the nra & gun lobby transmogrify what guncontrol advocates say & write, it's another case of their double standard - OK when we do it but when you do it it's WRONG.
.. The candidate evidently DID support ccw for most ex felons & convicted sex offenders - I daresay almost all candidates rec'g an A grade from the nra, would.
I call the ad mostly true but could insert the word 'most' or 'some', but overall typical trumped up counter attack.
johnston: ... many countries allow non violent felons to legally own guns, Canada being one of them.
just curious what this international tack had to do with anything in this post?
.. the nra wants it both ways; in order to distinguish between the noble 'law abiding gun owner' the nra claims things like most violent crimes are done by people with past criminal records, but the nra has few qualms about distinguishing whether those past felons were non violent or violent, or simply misdemeanants. (Burglary & Larceny are considered non violent felonies, misdemeanors are getting drunk or urinating in public.)
.. (on edit) Then the nra simultaneously supports those non violent ex felons & misdemeanants when they try to get their 'gun right's back, after prison or the trial etc.. thus having it 'both ways'. Most crimes are done by ex criminals not Law Abiding Gun Owners, but we supported giving most of them ex criminals their gun rights back!
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I was quoting your link
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