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Response to Dog Gone at Penigma (Reply #79)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:14 PM

80. otto & gregor

was the failure of the early plans to send the Jews to other locations outside of Germany, including possibly Madagascar. Interestingly, they had considered Palestine as one of those destinations, now Israel

I think a boatload was rejected at new york harbor, too, or am I thinking of something else. I'm thinking it might've been one of the same boats(ships) you mention above.

think the argument can fairly be made that it was more the combination of external circumstances that permitted Hitler to come to power, and that those circumstances, pressures and influences would have enabled someone else to do so in Hitler's absence. Don't forget that the 'Night of the Long knives' killed Nazi leaders like Strosser, the Nazi founder. Hitler didn't found the Nazis. It had other leaders.

They would have lacked hitlers charisma towards his fellow germans, especially the lower classes.
Gregor Strasser had the prussian/berlin nazi district, hitler the south bavarian, and the stronger the berlin nazis got the more hitler couldn't put up with gregor - and recall that gregors brother otto was cahoots with leftist socialists in germany, I think maybe communist ties as well. And also this was the time when even goebbels was no fan of hitler, & sided with gregor somehow.
For a similar holocaust to have transpired, it would mean gregor strasser, or julius streicher, or himmler or heydrich, to have become so maniacal as well as admired by the nazis & germans. Heydrich was maniacal & streicher too, but it's doubtful they ever could've been so magnetic to the volk, as hitler, in his speeches & mannerisms.
It's doubtful there would've been a world war two if no hitler, since only a madman would've invaded russia when britain was still alive & kicking, & ruled the waves.

True, much anti jewish sentiment amongst polish catholics back then, tho other countries did accept jewish refugees or emigrants, but very difficult to relocate, both mentally & physically.

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