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Response to iiibbb (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:12 PM

17. Incorrect

I didn't quantify how many fetishist populate gun rights arguments.

However, I would put those who believe that their handguns would be effective in overthrowing or stopping the U.S. government to be among those who demonstrate they are delusional in relationship to their firearms.

I don't think either Cuomo or Feinstein are a problem.

Here is the reason I would argue that pistol grips and barrel shrouds should be banned, and magazine size should be limited - spray fire that is only slightly slower than full auto:

Sack - another bullseye, re so-called 'semi-auto'



The cartoon is followed by half a dozen videos of people firing assault style weapons, mostly Bushmaster AR 15s, using nothing other than their thumbs and a belt loop. The pistol grip and the barrel shrouds are essential to being able to fire in that manner.

Here is just one of those videos from the penigma post, demonstrating shooting from the hip:


follow the link to see the others

and here is one shoulder bump firing, no special equipment:



The recent interviews from the very first Sandy Hook responders seem to be describing a fairly similar pattern of relatively rapid fire, and the positions of the bodies of the children in at least one of the rooms appears to indicate that the teacher and all of the kids were crowded into a corner, and that Adam Lanza simply spray fired into them, resulting in only one survivor in the heap who Lanza appears to have believed was dead.

In case you were wondering what my beef was with spray fire.

I don't see any legitimate use for armor piercing ammunition, or any ammunition that could be used against law enforcement that would penetrate standard LEO protection.

Without large capacity magazine, would anyone care if someone bump fired an AR-15 from their hip? Probably not. But so long as there are so many, and so many instances of assault style weapons being used in crimes and against law enforcement, there is a clear need to take that kind of action. Other countries don't allow assault style weapons, and it works very well. There is no good argument for us not to similarly be responsible, while still permitting many other kinds of firearms and related equipment.

I'd add silencers to the list btw. I think the NRA's claim they protect kids hearing is stupid - so do other kinds of protection. Silencers are unique to certain categories of crime, and work to prevent detection of shootings like many of those used in urban areas to monitor gun fire where not having that information would impeded effective law enforcement.

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