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Response to iiibbb (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:46 AM

15. There is a difference between uninformed speculation and solid historical conclusions

We KNOW that the shooting of just one Nazi led to massive civil and governmental backlash; therefore it is clear that any armed resistance would have also provoked this kind of response. It is further supported by other instances of armed response to Nazis by other groups as well as in reaction to Jewish armed resistance in the later days of the war. That is not speculation.

There is no justification that the substitution you are positing for Sandy Hook would have occurred, given how few school bombings have ever taken place, and how few people were killed comparatively, in those few. What makes this an inappropriate comparison is that the Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza intended to commit suicide as part of his attack. Without blowing the door to the school, he wouldn't have been able to even get inside to harm anyone. Further, there is clear evidence in the literature on the subject of suicide that there is very little substitution, and only very specific substitutions, in most suicides. There are occasional exceptions, but there is no legitimate extrapolation from so few school bombings compared and contrasted to school shootings, and factoring in the lack of substitutions in suicide methods, that this is a reasonable thing to posit in an argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_bombings_in_the_United_States

There are plausible arguments, and then are just plain bullshit arguments.

So, yes while the Columbine massacre involved bombs for example, they didn't work very well, and if I recall, no one died from them.

It takes less expertise to do what Lanza did than it does to make an effective bomb, and there is the additional factor of potential difficulty in assembling the components. Lanza didn't need to do anything to acquire the weapons he used other than to fire them.

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