Gun Control & RKBA

holdencaufield

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2. That might apply ...

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:04 AM

Jan 2013

... if anyone ever proposed a gun-control bill that had anything to do with protecting the lives of children (or adults) from people who are determined to do harm.

Added security, better mental health systems, a database of mentally unstable offenders, all would be along the lines of productive suggestions. Bans on cosmetic features, muzzle velocity, magazine capacity, and cyclical rates are security melodrama. At best they are legislative masturbation, at worst, they drain resources and political capital from ideas that actually MIGHT make a difference.

Until they do, ghoulish appeals over the graves of innocent children are just theatrics and, frankly, beneath you.

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The Battle this year for Gun Control in Virginia is OVER and some broader thoughts..... [View all] virginia mountainman Jan 2013 OP

How many more 6 and 7 year olds safeinOhio Jan 2013 #1

That might apply ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #2

And the first counterpoint out of the gate is... An emotional appeal (logical fallacy). OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #3

So the problem is "emotion" then. Pholus Jan 2013 #5

Emotion should not enter into legislation... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #6

Gun Nuts are emotional alright liberal N proud Jan 2013 #9

Wow, got two in one. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #18

Simple, It is my opinion that people who are emotional about guns are gun nuts liberal N proud Jan 2013 #19

Me too, I call the people that obsess over them "gun nuts" as well.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #24

You know, I hear a lot of bad-mouthing about gun-owners, bu Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #35

Your post has nothing to do with the subject at hand...... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #4

From your link you might want to consider how your OP fits in.... Pholus Jan 2013 #11

Ahhh, results, I spoke of what I SAW, I also spoke of past elections..nt virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #13

I saw several factors in that election... Pholus Jan 2013 #15

You don't think the current push for tighter gun laws safeinOhio Jan 2013 #12

And by the way, how does "ZOMG Thar taking my guns" Pholus Jan 2013 #17

Well, to be honest.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #25

How about some specifics about gun confiscation legislation? JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #27

Alright... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #31

Wow! What a scary list of gun confiscation legsilation! JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #33

"RW scare tactics?" Tell that to the so-called liberals who said those things... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #36

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you... JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #38

Just because you are blind to sound argument doesn't mean everyone is feeling the elephant... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #39

Yeah, that's for gunners themselves. Pholus Jan 2013 #68

Gun manufacturers can still be sued if they make a defective gun. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #70

Sorry, I'm not into sloppy eating or poor argument... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #72

Funny, you make enough of poor arguments I kinda though that was your style. Pholus Jan 2013 #73

Bada-BOOM! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #76

then do something about handguns Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #7

no no... it is the military style weapons that cause the most child deaths... iiibbb Jan 2013 #14

Handguns are next on the list. ... spin Jan 2013 #42

Show me a gun control proposal that will save a 6 or 7 year old iiibbb Jan 2013 #10

As now reported, all of those killed in Sandy Hook safeinOhio Jan 2013 #16

I'm fine with magazine limits - pistol grips and bayonet lugs are pointless iiibbb Jan 2013 #22

Like Virginia Tech? Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #23

How many of those magazines held safeinOhio Jan 2013 #28

at least a few Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #29

2? safeinOhio Jan 2013 #30

The is no such official report. Clames Jan 2013 #37

So someone set on murder will obey a law about mag limits? GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #61

Someone that buys his weapon a few days ahead, safeinOhio Jan 2013 #67

You missed the link... the 3-D print thing is here iiibbb Jan 2013 #69

3D lower iiibbb Jan 2013 #81

A second. Straw Man Jan 2013 #66

The stakes are higher too... Republicans these days are worse crazy iiibbb Jan 2013 #8

Phantoms after guns jimmy the one Jan 2013 #20

I don't think he reads the safeinOhio Jan 2013 #21

Gunnut in Azerbaijan jimmy the one Jan 2013 #26

Many of us have seen this trend before Riftaxe Jan 2013 #32

Well va may be safe for another year... ileus Jan 2013 #34

Thank you Virginia Republic Douchebags jpak Jan 2013 #40

Impossible! You mean the same Republicans legislators who, on MLK day, DanTex Jan 2013 #41

it will all be worth it in the end because we will win and you will be disarmed. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #43

Will this be before or after we are rid of illegal drugs? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #44

OH NO Berserker Jan 2013 #45

Me?! A few Problems with that.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #46

Then your guns will sit in a PVC tube, covered in cosmoline, buried in the ground bubbayugga Jan 2013 #47

I see you have a low regard for the 4A as well. gejohnston Jan 2013 #48

criminals don't have rights. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #49

How do you feel about grow lights and gejohnston Jan 2013 #50

Grow lights and water pipes don't kill children. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #51

neither do most guns gejohnston Jan 2013 #52

tell that to the thousands of people that are killed with guns every year in America. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #56

I just did gejohnston Jan 2013 #58

Neither do most guns- try a little harder, bubba... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #53

tell that to the thousands of people that are killed with guns every year in America. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #55

Like gej, I just did... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #60

EVERYBODY has rights (or should, anyway) friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #54

Criminals perpetrating the crime of failing to comply with a gun law have given up their rights bubbayugga Jan 2013 #57

I note you skipped the whole 'due process' bit before deeming people "criminals" friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #59

If we're knocking on your door, you've already had your due process- guaranteed. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #62

What "we"? You and the rest of the 403rd ITG Battalion? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #63

yeah, don't get me wrong. I won't personally be knocking on your door. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #64

I'm truly amazed; you're even *more* hypocritical than Romney. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #65

What you mean, "We", Kimosabe? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #71

You know, "we" the police and the military just like in Australia. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #74

hate to break it to you but gejohnston Jan 2013 #75

They went to your door once they established non-compliance with the buy back. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #77

they still estimate a high number gejohnston Jan 2013 #79

Keep telling yourself that. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #78

Don't expect me to lose any sleep because of fear of a gun ban and confiscation. ... spin Jan 2013 #80