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In reply to the discussion: Nancy Skinner to introduce ammunition bill. [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)85. Tsk. You were doing quite well, right up until *this* clanger:
Michael Bellisiles book 'Arming America' is a fine history, closer to the truth than the 2ndA mythology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_America
Emory investigation and resignation
As criticism grew and charges of scholarly misconduct were made, Emory University conducted an internal inquiry into Bellesiles's integrity, appointing an independent investigative committee composed of three leading academic historians from outside Emory.[18] Bellesiles failed to provide investigators with his research notes, claiming the notes were destroyed in a flood.[19]
The scholarly investigation confirmed that Bellesiles's work had serious flaws, calling into question both its quality and veracity. The external report on Bellesiles concluded that "every aspect of his work in the probate records is deeply flawed" and called his statements in self-defense "prolix, confusing, evasive, and occasionally contradictory." It concluded that "his scholarly integrity is seriously in question."[20]
Bellesiles disputed these findings, claiming to have followed all scholarly standards and to have corrected all errors of fact known to him. Nevertheless, with his "reputation in tatters," Bellesiles issued a statement on October 25, 2002, announcing the resignation of his professorship at Emory by year's end.[21]
Aftermath of the scandal
In 2002, the trustees of Columbia University rescinded Arming America's Bancroft Prize, the first such action in the history of the prize. Alfred A. Knopf, publisher of Arming America, did not renew Bellesiles's contract, and the National Endowment for the Humanities withdrew its name from a fellowship that the Newberry Library had granted Bellesiles.[22] In 2003, Arming America was republished in a revised and amended edition by Soft Skull Press. Bellesiles continued to defend the book's credibility and thesis, arguing that roughly three-quarters of the original book remained unchallenged.[23]
As criticism grew and charges of scholarly misconduct were made, Emory University conducted an internal inquiry into Bellesiles's integrity, appointing an independent investigative committee composed of three leading academic historians from outside Emory.[18] Bellesiles failed to provide investigators with his research notes, claiming the notes were destroyed in a flood.[19]
The scholarly investigation confirmed that Bellesiles's work had serious flaws, calling into question both its quality and veracity. The external report on Bellesiles concluded that "every aspect of his work in the probate records is deeply flawed" and called his statements in self-defense "prolix, confusing, evasive, and occasionally contradictory." It concluded that "his scholarly integrity is seriously in question."[20]
Bellesiles disputed these findings, claiming to have followed all scholarly standards and to have corrected all errors of fact known to him. Nevertheless, with his "reputation in tatters," Bellesiles issued a statement on October 25, 2002, announcing the resignation of his professorship at Emory by year's end.[21]
Aftermath of the scandal
In 2002, the trustees of Columbia University rescinded Arming America's Bancroft Prize, the first such action in the history of the prize. Alfred A. Knopf, publisher of Arming America, did not renew Bellesiles's contract, and the National Endowment for the Humanities withdrew its name from a fellowship that the Newberry Library had granted Bellesiles.[22] In 2003, Arming America was republished in a revised and amended edition by Soft Skull Press. Bellesiles continued to defend the book's credibility and thesis, arguing that roughly three-quarters of the original book remained unchallenged.[23]
http://www.emory.edu/news/Releases//Final_Report.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/08/books/08GUNS.html?scp=3&sq=bellesiles&st=cse&pagewanted=all
... He has said from the start that he took notes on the thousands of colonial-era probate records with tick marks in pencil on yellow legal pads. That fact alone was surprising to many of his fellow historians, who tend to use a database when working with such large amounts of information.
Almost all of those notebooks were destroyed when his office at Emory was flooded in May 2000, Mr. Bellesiles said.
James Lindgren, a professor at Northwestern University Law School and by far the most thorough of Mr. Bellesiles's critics, asked him last year where he had done his research on probate records. Mr. Bellesiles responded with a number of locations, including the San Francisco Superior Court, where he said he had found probate records from the 1850's.
Mr. Lindgren, who has done extensive work in probate data, called the courthouse and was told that all the records for that decade were destroyed in the 1906 earthquake and fire. They were not available in two other Bay Area libraries, either. Mr. Bellesiles now says he must have done the research somewhere else and cannot remember where.
Almost all of those notebooks were destroyed when his office at Emory was flooded in May 2000, Mr. Bellesiles said.
James Lindgren, a professor at Northwestern University Law School and by far the most thorough of Mr. Bellesiles's critics, asked him last year where he had done his research on probate records. Mr. Bellesiles responded with a number of locations, including the San Francisco Superior Court, where he said he had found probate records from the 1850's.
Mr. Lindgren, who has done extensive work in probate data, called the courthouse and was told that all the records for that decade were destroyed in the 1906 earthquake and fire. They were not available in two other Bay Area libraries, either. Mr. Bellesiles now says he must have done the research somewhere else and cannot remember where.
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I predict a huge increase in sales of reloading equipment and ammunition components
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#2
Most of them are smart enough to drive a car across the nearest state line...
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#10
California has a couple of thousand miles of borders...good luck with that.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#101
How? It's unenforceable outside of California, and doubtfully enforceable inside it.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#82
truly the term nuts is what had the wherewithall to slaughter innocent victims at Sandy Hook and
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2013
#17
I am not surprised. and if you meant it sincerely then I will accept your apology on behalf
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2013
#21
That would be a classic negative unintended consequence of a bad bill written with good intentions
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#9
Nancy Skinner is a blithering idiot, and proved it with her own words:
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#7
Someone can be both well-meaning and stupid. Rep. Skinner is such a person.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#27
who pays for the medical care? and what do we do we the people who refuse to get help?
samsingh
Jan 2013
#69
legislation that will make it more difficult to get guns, ammunication, or equipment that shoots
samsingh
Jan 2013
#79
Samuel Johnson did not coin the phrase "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions"
slackmaster
Jan 2013
#35
Piers asked a simple question - how many people were killed in the UK with guns?
samsingh
Jan 2013
#45
it was an intelligent question if someone wants to really know the answer about guns
samsingh
Jan 2013
#57
but if i look at the data without conjective. The UK has fewer gun related deaths than the US
samsingh
Jan 2013
#70
the basic message though is the difference in gun deaths. Your analysis may be correct or it might
samsingh
Jan 2013
#80
perhaps it should be easier to purchase Pseudoephedrine and convict the criminals that are misusing
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2013
#18
damn it. I will just have to try harder - remind me to take my stupid pill in the morning? thanks.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2013
#25
Gun shop owners in Nevada, Oregon, and Arizona will be most grateful....
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#52
Belleisles is a known fraud, and resigned his professorship after being found out
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#86
Yeaah, about that; "Pulped" Fiction: Michael Bellesiles and His Yellow Note Pads
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#91