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gejohnston

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43. that is the fault of their families and communities
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jan 2013

but the last guy stole his.

Even though The Netherlands doesn't have a high rate of gun ownership, police are not allowed access to mental health records when processing gun permits. At least that was the case two years ago. Since many if not most European gun laws were aimed at political violence during the 1920s, that is fairly typical.

under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 gejohnston Jan 2013 #1
does everybody need to be tested? CreekDog Jan 2013 #2
Prone to tama Jan 2013 #4
the key word is adjudicated gejohnston Jan 2013 #5
how would this have stopped Lanza, Holmes, or Laughner? CreekDog Jan 2013 #7
In Lanza's case it appears that his mother was trying to get him into therapy flamin lib Jan 2013 #68
I'd have to look up... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #84
okay, those three were not adjudicated, how does the NRA plan for better mental health keep us safer CreekDog Jan 2013 #11
Don't keep a gun in your home HockeyMom Jan 2013 #28
oh goody, that sounds like a plan CreekDog Jan 2013 #29
that is the fault of their families and communities gejohnston Jan 2013 #43
If they're diagnosed, then what? Drugs? Some drugs increase suicidal feelings. tblue Jan 2013 #27
You could start improving mental health with a questionnaire tama Jan 2013 #3
yeah but what if everyone doesn't want to fill out the questionnaire? CreekDog Jan 2013 #6
If you don't wanna live peacefully in this community and respect other life tama Jan 2013 #8
people get sent to an island for not filling out a questionnaire? CreekDog Jan 2013 #10
Point is tama Jan 2013 #12
save the recorded lecture on whatever weird philosophy unrelated to this OP you're trying to spread CreekDog Jan 2013 #15
Funny that tama Jan 2013 #31
this is a group and the most limited at DU in terms of compassion CreekDog Jan 2013 #33
Ah, didn't look and thought this was in GD. tama Jan 2013 #36
I wish undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #103
In all three cases, plus Cho at VTech, there was a history that was ignored or hidden DonP Jan 2013 #13
If you excluded all people who express crazy, angry feelings or who act crazy and angry JDPriestly Jan 2013 #109
"...doesn't want to fill out the questionnaire" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #21
So people like me who joined the Air Force during the Vietnam War ... spin Jan 2013 #37
Well tama Jan 2013 #40
Re-education camps have a tarnished history. ... spin Jan 2013 #58
As you noticed tama Jan 2013 #64
I did suspect that you were being sarcastic ... spin Jan 2013 #71
During WWII tama Jan 2013 #72
I have found that most combat vets from places like Vietnam ... spin Jan 2013 #73
it doesn't. it's another talking point to enable more guns to be sold samsingh Jan 2013 #9
on the one hand the NRA says it wants to restrict crazy people gettig guns. Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #14
No, its really not. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #26
+1 nt Live and Learn Jan 2013 #60
people with guns, whether they are mentally ill or not can kill with the guns samsingh Jan 2013 #85
are you a vegetarian? gejohnston Jan 2013 #86
i'm a vegetarian samsingh Jan 2013 #99
if a plant is still green, gejohnston Jan 2013 #107
talking about taking an argument to the ridiculous samsingh Jan 2013 #110
simply pointing out gejohnston Jan 2013 #111
Hunters are great. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #89
delusions and self justication is great samsingh Jan 2013 #100
Seems anything that doesn't involve gun bans is an "NRA talking-point." Kind of illustrates... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #76
There seems to be two items conflated here sylvi Jan 2013 #16
gun advocates here would probably not want any restriction at the point of sale CreekDog Jan 2013 #17
Im not sure I'm seeing that sylvi Jan 2013 #18
i don't see how it would've changed the most notable shootings of the past 2 years CreekDog Jan 2013 #19
The only place I used the word "sure" sylvi Jan 2013 #23
not sure it does if it's still very easy to get a gun JI7 Jan 2013 #20
Ideally sylvi Jan 2013 #24
of course, even without the violence they should be able to get treatment JI7 Jan 2013 #25
What it does is it enables individuals to have a strategy when they are in crisis. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #22
People would be less likely to think krispos42 Jan 2013 #30
most people in this group don't even support universal health care CreekDog Jan 2013 #34
Supposition on your part. krispos42 Jan 2013 #35
I said "most in this group" --and it's not a supposition CreekDog Jan 2013 #38
Well, I can't speak for that. krispos42 Jan 2013 #39
Count me out of your "most." Straw Man Jan 2013 #69
I love my socialized VA and kind of single payer Tri Care gejohnston Jan 2013 #70
I fully support single payer. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #93
disgusting. ott post and a virtual slam of all posters in this group. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #50
not a slam against all the posters in this group CreekDog Jan 2013 #51
if it is empirical, gejohnston Jan 2013 #54
how do you knowwhat *most* posters in this group think of Health Care? you have links? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #55
So you just create narratives, huh? And lying is fair game for you? This is why... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #79
What happens if you have crappy mental health care? Bosso 63 Jan 2013 #32
Improving Mental Health care improves society. Taking care and helping is the democratic way. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #41
should we replace speed limits with more driver's education classes? CreekDog Jan 2013 #42
wrong. Driving is a privilege It is Not a Right. Ask any Night Court Judge. Also, Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #44
lol CreekDog Jan 2013 #46
boingboing! we missed you! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #48
the whole car/gun analogy is silly on many levels gejohnston Jan 2013 #45
true, since the first use of a car is not to kill CreekDog Jan 2013 #47
vehicular manslaughter ring a bell with you, boingboing? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #49
so a car is designed first and foremost to kill? CreekDog Jan 2013 #52
boingboing! we missed you so! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #56
boingboing? CreekDog Jan 2013 #59
It's just an observation. Clames Jan 2013 #75
....and an "empirical" one at that! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #80
He's using a medical definition of "empiracal I believe. Clames Jan 2013 #88
LOL! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #90
Well, I'm not them and just like before you are embarrassingly mixing me up with another CreekDog Jan 2013 #78
what is embarassing about that? I made an error. BFD. but, this time you are acting just like Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #83
kinda shows that you make errors about this sort of thing CreekDog Jan 2013 #87
they do a better job of it than anything else gejohnston Jan 2013 #57
They are certainly misused more than guns. iiibbb Jan 2013 #61
A guns "first use" is as a deterrent... it's "second use" is as a projectile weap iiibbb Jan 2013 #62
EVERY gun owner is a danger to society. bowens43 Jan 2013 #53
just like every idiot is a danger to society. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #65
Let's get real discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #66
bowens, are you so paranoid that you think tens of millions of fellow-Americans are a danger? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #81
It doesn't. It's a Red Herring yet I am strongly for gun management. libdem4life Jan 2013 #63
One question gejohnston Jan 2013 #67
Something far, far more terrifying...intellingence and critical thinking skills...the ability to put libdem4life Jan 2013 #74
first you have to have the correct information gejohnston Jan 2013 #77
As opposed to the Liberals? Let me restate...mental health is no way no how an answer libdem4life Jan 2013 #91
I didn't say it did gejohnston Jan 2013 #96
Admirable, this "intelligence and critical thinking skills" Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #82
Depends on where one lives. Mobs and hit men and silencers??? libdem4life Jan 2013 #94
deer with a .22? gejohnston Jan 2013 #95
One for hunting one for protection? Is it that hard? Really. libdem4life Jan 2013 #97
Your arguments don't begin to hold up... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #98
Fear and paranoia are very different. And a Prohibitionist means libdem4life Jan 2013 #108
Reduction of suicides would be the main benefit. hack89 Jan 2013 #92
What Hack 89 said!! KnR! undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #104
Lanza was a thief sleestak smile Jan 2013 #101
If people have easier/cheaper access for help with depression, ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #102
No, undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #105
If less gun owners are depressed, then less gun owners will use their guns ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #106
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