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laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
46. The safety is independently verified through more than one area of research.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:48 PM
Jun 2012

The first part is that our immune systems have evolved to handle lots of attacks at once (pretty obvious when you consider the bulk of human history). If being exposed to a handful of vaccines at once is enough to overwhelm the immune system, imagine what the vast number of different bacteria and other microoganisms we're exposed to every day would do. There are a lot of studies from different fields that confirm that the human immune system is more than robust enough to handle a few vaccines at a time, especially since modern vaccines are designed to stimulate the production of antibodies without the risk of causing an infection from the disease in question.

Another source is actual, direct studies on the question, one of which examines several factors involved in this issue.

In this review, we will examine the following: 1) the ontogeny of the active immune response and the ability of neonates and young infants to respond to vaccines; 2) the theoretic capacity of an infant’s immune system; 3) data that demonstrate that mild or moderate illness does not interfere with an infant’s ability to generate protective immune responses to vaccines; 4) how infants respond to vaccines given in combination compared with the same vaccines given separately; 5) data showing that vaccinated children are not more likely to develop infections with other pathogens than unvaccinated children; and 6) the fact that infants actually encounter fewer antigens in vaccines today than they did 40 or 100 years ago.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/109/1/124.full
I wonder if part of the problem is trying to "Vaccinize" everything including what used to be villager Jun 2012 #1
+1000!!! FirstLight Jun 2012 #2
Yeah, because it's a great thing to push anti-science nonsense. HuckleB Jun 2012 #16
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #18
And once again, science is labeled "Big Pharma." HuckleB Jun 2012 #19
To quote a great TV show... TheMightyFavog Jun 2012 #37
There was morbidity and mortality associated with these illnesses cbayer Jun 2012 #3
Sure, if you don't mind hundreds of children dying every year. TheWraith Jun 2012 #5
What problem? The naturalistic fallacy? alp227 Jun 2012 #6
Those childhood diseases are far from harmless. MineralMan Jun 2012 #7
I don't remember a single kid dying from chicken pox or mumps, actually villager Jun 2012 #9
It's rare, but happens. laconicsax Jun 2012 #10
"Chickenpox Vaccine Loses Effectiveness" villager Jun 2012 #11
Your point is what? laconicsax Jun 2012 #12
I'd respond, but since you're good at putting words in my mouth villager Jun 2012 #20
What words were "put in your mouth?" HuckleB Jun 2012 #22
Hey, HuckleB -- it turns out, I wasn't talking to you! villager Jun 2012 #24
It turns out you made a claim you can't support. HuckleB Jun 2012 #27
Please list what I've made up and what words I've put in your mouth. laconicsax Jun 2012 #25
Please read the article I posted and respond to that, instead of lapsing into "insult mode" villager Jun 2012 #28
The article you posted has zero relevance to the OP or the rest of this thread. laconicsax Jun 2012 #36
Ah -- so you don't read the actual posts (but we knew that), preferring instead your snarky drivel villager Jun 2012 #40
What on Earth are you talking about? laconicsax Jun 2012 #41
Who's "we?" HuckleB Jun 2012 #42
I remember a "statistics teacher" who played the same game. n/t laconicsax Jun 2012 #45
A kid in a neighboring town of mine died from chicken pox. trotsky Jun 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #34
Well, I do remember one. MineralMan Jun 2012 #17
What a lovely, progressive attitude. laconicsax Jun 2012 #8
+1 HuckleB Jun 2012 #14
That sounds ominously similar to sadge-virgo Jun 2012 #57
There's a notable difference: laconicsax Jun 2012 #64
What? HuckleB Jun 2012 #15
Good. TheWraith Jun 2012 #4
And yet hearsay and anecdotage dominate the "vaccinate for everything" side of the debate here, too villager Jun 2012 #21
Nope. HuckleB Jun 2012 #23
Oh, I'm sorry. When was the last time your kids had Polio? TheWraith Jun 2012 #26
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #29
Nope. HuckleB Jun 2012 #30
Any law to shoot people up will not go down nicely. Fascism pure and simple. caesars things Jun 2012 #31
Putting others at risk because one believes in fairy tales is a good way to describe fascism, IMO. HuckleB Jun 2012 #32
That is very dangerous thinking, my friend. caesars things Jun 2012 #33
Yes, anti-vaccine fairy tales are dangerous. HuckleB Jun 2012 #35
They should have been praying that Skinner wouldn't notice them. laconicsax Jun 2012 #38
Interestingly, I played with puppets with my six-year-old this afternoon. HuckleB Jun 2012 #39
I'm ready to turn this thread back to the scientific mode Celebration Jun 2012 #43
The safety is independently verified through more than one area of research. laconicsax Jun 2012 #46
not what I was looking for Celebration Jun 2012 #47
You mean the studies that show the individual vaccines are safe? laconicsax Jun 2012 #48
my first preference Celebration Jun 2012 #49
That's a nice preference except for the fact that it would be highly unethical. laconicsax Jun 2012 #50
Please prove your last assertion. HuckleB Jun 2012 #51
huh! Celebration Jun 2012 #52
So you've made assertions you can't support. HuckleB Jun 2012 #53
No, that's not what they said. laconicsax Jun 2012 #54
Oh, ok. HuckleB Jun 2012 #55
I'll answer Celebration Jun 2012 #56
In other words, you made a claim that you can't support. HuckleB Jun 2012 #58
tit for tat Celebration Jun 2012 #60
Nice confession. HuckleB Jun 2012 #61
No problem Celebration Jun 2012 #65
I'm certain that you haven't connected the dots. HuckleB Jun 2012 #66
Righto Celebration Jun 2012 #67
Like I wrote, you haven't connected the dots. HuckleB Jun 2012 #68
And you refuse to provide the dots Celebration Jun 2012 #71
I'm not the one who needs to provide proof of anything. HuckleB Jun 2012 #72
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Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric: When Pro-Safe Is Pro-Misinformation HuckleB Jun 2012 #63
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Vaccine studies: Examine the evidence HuckleB Jun 2012 #70
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