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Bluenorthwest

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36. What you are ignoring is the arc of history and the context that creates...
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:14 AM
Apr 2012

William Jefferson Clinton was the FIRST national Democrat to so much as mention the glbt community as a part of this Party. So prior to him, there was zero, nothing, not a shred of support from the DNC or any of their national candidates.
This means that each new Democratic President now enters a discussion that simply was not going on in the Party prior to Clinton, or more to the point, prior to Reagan's pathetic refusal to so much as mention the AIDS crisis for many years, and the DNC waking up to the fact that there was organization, power and passion in our community ready to draw on for their own agenda's sake.
No Democratic President can now return to the pre-Clinton era. The metrics are entirely different than they were in the past. That's how progress and history work.

It's a shame this is taking place immediately before a Presidential election Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #1
Silence = Death. n/t William769 Apr 2012 #2
that phrase is about US keeping silence, not about others sticking their necks, nofurylike Apr 2012 #6
ACT UP was not just LBGT persons FreeState Apr 2012 #11
for now, just briefly, more later. nofurylike Apr 2012 #12
Knowledge = Life Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #20
There is no such risk in supporting marriage equality FreeState Apr 2012 #28
from an article posted on this forum: nofurylike Apr 2012 #32
There's a lot of worthlessness in those sentiments. laconicsax Apr 2012 #34
"a lot of worthlessness"? (rather a personal attack, you know.) tell it to Rep Frank. and nofurylike Apr 2012 #35
What you are ignoring is the arc of history and the context that creates... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #36
that is the point. context mitigates for Pres Clinton, but not for Pres Obama. nofurylike Apr 2012 #37
So you choose not to address this and change the subject? n/t FreeState Apr 2012 #38
Barack Obama has always been about one thing: joeybee12 Apr 2012 #3
smoke a joint go to for profit prison. Oh sorry, wrong issue nt msongs Apr 2012 #4
i am sorry to see you must be way too busy to get to appreciate the facts. nofurylike Apr 2012 #7
I recognize what's been accomplished BUT BillStein Apr 2012 #8
that was not what the poster i replied to said. thank you, though. nt nofurylike Apr 2012 #13
Typical response...rhethoric, no facts...nt joeybee12 Apr 2012 #9
plenty of facts in this group's forum. i hope you take the time nofurylike Apr 2012 #14
I'm a federal employee and Creideiki Apr 2012 #10
Condescendence isn't an argument. The Philosopher Apr 2012 #16
direct, calm, sincere responses are often demeaned as condescension here. nofurylike Apr 2012 #25
No, telling people The Philosopher Apr 2012 #27
i am sincerely sorry when someone does not know facts that could nofurylike Apr 2012 #29
I have not received any additional rights. None. yardwork Apr 2012 #17
My state is voting on one, too. MNBrewer Apr 2012 #18
I know. We're actually going backwards in many parts of the country. yardwork Apr 2012 #19
Yes, I've decided that I will be voting for Obama as well. MNBrewer Apr 2012 #21
Gosh, I feel exactly the same way! yardwork Apr 2012 #22
We're not worth enough. Fearless Apr 2012 #5
Don't Expect Obama to Stick His Neck Out For Us... RetiredTrotskyite Apr 2012 #15
Obama is a social conservative Doctor_J Apr 2012 #23
I said that in 2008 right after the election and got in big trouble for it on DU. yardwork Apr 2012 #24
Between this, his crackdown on pot smokers, his gifts to the gun culture, Doctor_J Apr 2012 #26
That he's playing 7-dimensional chess? laconicsax Apr 2012 #30
Yes, we encountered that chess argument before Doctor_J Apr 2012 #31
The mistake everyone made was in assuming that Obama wasn't playing chess against us. laconicsax Apr 2012 #33
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