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Response to William Seger (Reply #113)

Thu May 17, 2012, 07:08 AM

145. Finally getting back 2 u...

 

Okay, this is the normal response: an 'unrestrained thermal exansion.' Fancy terminology! Dude: that fancy word-salad you just tossed has as little to do with builings in contemprary architecture as it has to do with greens in that sentence. Repeating fancy language doesn't equate to valid explaination. We're still here, us conspiracy crazy-heads: HOW?? Or, as my man Meatwad says: "Do what now?"

So the OKC building is different. Yup. Gotcha. But does that mean the code for building is 'that' different? Actually, how much of a diffence in years of completion are there between the Murrah building and the World Trade Center complex? The point I was making was to discontinue this absurd notion that damage to WT7 brought the building 'straight' down into its footprint. The OKC bombing proves that a contemporary building, meeting building codes, can withstand half of its weight-bearing girders et al being destroyed and still stand (well, until DEMOLITION EXPERTS come in to bring the rest down). Remember: they hired explosive experts just to bring down half of a building in OKC; and it wasn't even surrounded by much - compared to lower Manhatten).

Dude, did you really just state "the uniqueness of it collapse is completely unremarkable"? That is your sentence. That sums it all up. Really, after the demand on logic that you made in that sentence, do I really have to say anything more?? Uniqueness would make something incredibly remarkable; its remarkable because its unique. That was my point.

You state without batting an eyelach: "even though the Zapruder film shows JFK getting hit from behind." WHAT?!? Where are you getting that from? There IS evidence of a shot to the front of JFK: skull fragments were collected from Daely Plaza from the north of where the head shot occured. That means a shot from the south-west pushed his stuff to the opposite side of the head-shot bullet's origin.

And here's another quick dismissal from you: "the "back and to the left motion" doesn't require any hit from the right front;" unquote dude. That's ALL you have to say about that: pretty much the most damaging evidence to the Warren Commision Report? Welp, to you: "Hey guys, it just doesn't 'require' any hit from the right front'". Really? WHY NOT?!?

Again you serve me up a softball. You say: "a bullet hit can't really explain the acceleration seen in that motion, anyway, so it's a particularly bad hypothesis". Really? Because, philosophical (and linguistically) that sentence you just used contradicts itself. If you're saying that the acceleration can't be explained, how can you explain that his theory is the wrong explaination? I respect you guy; really I do. I think you mean well. But this pretzel-logic you're using, which is very selective, won't work with me dude. Either try to explain it, or, if you can't, you can't dismiss others explainations. Sucks; I know. But that's how it works.

Shutter speed: if I meant "completely irrelevant" I would have used that phrase. I used "spot-on". And it is important: you, I believe, are missing the point. A slow shutter speed can only capture so many frames of 'moving reality.' The dude I was agreeing with was saying that the frames you were focused on were missing a part of 'reality' due to slow shutter speed.

Yeah, I'm sure 'earing' a shot isn't as simple as I think. But there is this reality: Zupruder reacted to the shots in his original film, and there were more than 3. Also, the Grassy Knoll area down to Elm is very confined; its not that large of a space. This is not hiding in a foxhole. These shots were 'right on top' of them. These witnesses were feet away. I'm sure you anecdotal army training means a lot to you; but I can't verity if you've really been there anyway. It could be true, or it could be someone coming up with cripe to support their viewpoint. Don't know...

Talking about planting evidence: when it comes to conspiracy (not theory) all you need to look out for is damning evidence. The circumstantial stuff you can leave alone; no one will believe it or think it important after time anyway. You can testify to that.


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